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Subject: Re: [rxvt packaging bug?] New rxvt introduces broken font default
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From: Markus E L <ls-cygwin-2006 AT m-e-leypold DOT de>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:47:39 +0200
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Charles Wilson wrote:

> Max Bowsher wrote:
>> I just updated to rxvt-20050409-7, and the font changed to a very weird
>> display using a proportional-width font, but displayed with each
>> character left-aligned within a fixed-size area which appears to
>> correspond to the largest character within the font.
>
> That's the "normal" behavior when "I can't find the font you wanted".
>
>> At a guess, this is because the new /etc/X11/app-defaults/Rxvt specifies
>> "bitstream vera sans mono" and I have no font by that name.
>
> Yes.
>
>> If that's the case, it is a bug for the rxvt package to depend on a
>> non-standard font for its default display.
>
> Not exactly. rxvt is in a unique position in that it is used in two
> entirely separate modes.  In "native" mode, it doesn't care which X
> fonts are installed -- so the rxvt package as a whole must not
> require: anything X-related.  In "X11" mode, obviously rxvt depends on
> a lot of xorg-x11-* packages.  One of those -- xorg-x11-fscl --
> happens to be an optional component of X11, and contains the bitstream
> fonts.  But again, because of the "native" mode issue, the rxvt
> package itself can't require: xorg-x11-fscl without also indirectly
> require:ing all of X11. This would seriously inconvenience rxvt users
> who only use it in native mode.
>
> Gack.

Couldn't that be solved by introducing a rxvt-x11 package that just
pulls in (via the dependencies) all x11 stuff required for rxvt and
rxvt itself. It would help not to miss things necessary for x11 but
still allow to install bare rxvt only.

Just a suggestion. Yes I know PTC and so on. 

Regards -- Markus


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