X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <46ED9817.3040807@cwilson.fastmail.fm> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:54:47 -0400 From: Charles Wilson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: [rxvt packaging bug?] New rxvt introduces broken font default References: <46EC5FA1 DOT 6070902 AT ukf DOT net> In-Reply-To: <46EC5FA1.6070902@ukf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Max Bowsher wrote: > I just updated to rxvt-20050409-7, and the font changed to a very weird > display using a proportional-width font, but displayed with each > character left-aligned within a fixed-size area which appears to > correspond to the largest character within the font. That's the "normal" behavior when "I can't find the font you wanted". > At a guess, this is because the new /etc/X11/app-defaults/Rxvt specifies > "bitstream vera sans mono" and I have no font by that name. Yes. > If that's the case, it is a bug for the rxvt package to depend on a > non-standard font for its default display. Not exactly. rxvt is in a unique position in that it is used in two entirely separate modes. In "native" mode, it doesn't care which X fonts are installed -- so the rxvt package as a whole must not require: anything X-related. In "X11" mode, obviously rxvt depends on a lot of xorg-x11-* packages. One of those -- xorg-x11-fscl -- happens to be an optional component of X11, and contains the bitstream fonts. But again, because of the "native" mode issue, the rxvt package itself can't require: xorg-x11-fscl without also indirectly require:ing all of X11. This would seriously inconvenience rxvt users who only use it in native mode. Gack. I suppose I could change the default to use (ugh) Courier fixed (as opposed to scalable), which would "fix" the issue for people running in X11 mode with "incomplete" X11 installations. Ugly ugly ugly. This sucks. This would technically fix the native issue, as well, but it would be REALLY ugly: there IS a windows font called "courier" -- but it is a bitmapped non-TrueType font. I want to show off a good-looking rxvt, not a least-common-denominator bag-over-the-head-ugly rxvt. However, for "native" mode? I can't /really/ fix that, if you insist on relying on undocumented default behavior. The recommended method of starting rxvt in native mode is to always specify a font (and explicitly force native display mode), using windows not x11 naming convention. E.g. rxvt -display :0 -fn "Lucida Console-16" in which case any font specifications in ~/.Xdefaults or /etc/X11/app-defaults are overidden. From the README (although I admit it is rather buried. I need to rewrite it): ===================================================================== (1) In ~/.Xdefaults, set whatever font you like for X usage. He prefers Rxvt*font: -*-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--*-130-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1 Rxvt*boldfont: -*-bitstream vera sans mono-bold-r-normal--*-130-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1 (2) In the shortcut for starting rxvt in X mode, use this command string C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/rxvt.exe -display 127.0.0.1:0.0 \ -tn rxvt-cygwin -e /usr/bin/bash --login -i (3) In the shortcut for starting rxvt in Native mode, use this command string C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/rxvt.exe -display :0 \ -fn "Lucida ConsoleP-16" -tn rxvt-cygwin-native -e /usr/bin/bash --login -i ===================================================================== If you *KNOW* you will never use rxvt in X mode, then you can edit /etc/X11/app-defaults/Rxvt (or ~/.Xdefaults) to specify the desired native font: rxvt*font: -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-20-96-120-120-c-100-iso8859-1 (note "Courier New" -- the windows name -- not "courier" -- the X11 name) Or, you could install the free bitstream fonts into C:/WINDOWS/Fonts/ http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ttf-bitstream-vera/1.10/ and things would "Just Work"(tm) in native mode without further changes. (Although I realize some corporate environments don't allow users to install Windows fonts). -- Chuck -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/