X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4692832A.3080108@cygwin.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:49:14 -0400 From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070505 Remi/2.0.0.0-3.fc4.remi Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: status of utf-8 patch References: <3058f9b40707090419w3b475aa1j74396a5dad5aacd9 AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <46921D75 DOT 29CE8798 AT dessent DOT net> <46927899 DOT 60609 AT cygwin DOT com> <3058f9b40707091122o5ab30b8ci717c93bedf537796 AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> In-Reply-To: <3058f9b40707091122o5ab30b8ci717c93bedf537796@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com . Reformatted. Ariel Burbaickij wrote: > On 7/9/07, Larry Hall (Cygwin) cygwin com> wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Please, let's not feed the spammers. >> Matt Seitz wrote: >> > "Brian Dessent" dessent net> wrote in message >> > news:46921D75 DOT 29CE8798 AT dessent DOT net... >> >> Ariel Burbaickij wrote: >> >> >> >>> question: what is the status of utf-8 patch fo cygwin? Is it >> >> You can find all the details in the mailing list archives. >> >> >> >> >> >>> endorsed/supported? >> >> It was submitted and rejected on technical grounds, which means sadly >> >> it's not supported here. >> > >> > The explanation I saw for the rejection was "...it should just be a >> > wholesale replacement, not a bunch of wrappers around existing >> functions." >> > >> > It's now a year later. Is there an expectation that the "wholesale >> > replacement" or another solution is coming soon? What would be the >> harm in >> > adopting the current solution for now? Is this a case of "the >> perfect is >> > the enemy of the good"? >> >> >> No. It's more like the "the limited hack is the enemy of future >> progress". >> It should be _a_little_ easier to implement something maintainable with >> 1.7 code (in CVS), since Win9x support is no longer a requirement. >> > Have you some outlines of this something given WIn 9x support can be > dropped, indeed? Not really, no. But Win9x definitely complicated the API and forced Cygwin down a path that is the genesis of this problem. Removing the requirements to support these limited O/S versions should make UNICODE/UTF8 support cleaner. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/