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Phil Betts wrote:
> John wrote on Friday, June 01, 2007 3:05 AM::
>
>   
>> I finished the script I have been working on. Unfortunately,
>> this Pee Cee version won't even finish the full data run
>> as it crashes with Zone Alarm. Since I have a long term good
>> relationship with Zone Alarm, I have to write off cygwin.
>>
>> And here are the timings I get from my Windoze cygwin machine
>> vs. my MacBook Os X are (comparable machines):
>>
>> Timings on Windoze cygwin:
>> [snip]
>> Zone Alarm crashes ALWAYS, won't even finish
>>
>> Timings on Mac OS X:
>> [snip]
>>
>> I am afraid I just have to move all this to my MacBook
>> and forget about Windoze/cygwin.
>>     
>
> You're comparing chalk & cheese and complaining that your mouth's
> full of grit.  It's not the chalk's fault.  It never claimed to 
> tasted good in a sandwich.
>
> Run your script on a Mac emulator running under Windows, (without
> removing ZoneAlarm), then report back.  Alternatively, run your
> script under Linux on your PC.
>
> You also haven't grasped simple logic, so I dread to think what
> your script is like.  (Give us a laugh and post it, I dare you)
>
> Many people have experienced this:
>  PC+Windows+ZoneAlarm+Cygwin+Script = Will not run
>  PC+Windows+ZoneAlarm+ProgramX      = Will not run
>  PC+Windows+Cygwin+Script           = Runs
>  PC+Windows+ProgramX                = Runs
>
> What sort of warped logic blames cygwin in this situation?
>
> The experience of many others is that ZoneAlarm is a badly written
> program that interferes with the correct operation of all sorts of
> software, not just cygwin.  What sort of arrogant fool thinks the
> experience of countless others in the same circumstance doesn't 
> apply to them?
>
> Cygwin works.  I use it all day, every day and have done for years.
> I didn't have to do anything special to get it to work.  If you 
> can't make it work for you, I suggest that, ultimately, the problem 
> is between your own ears, and you would be better off working on a 
> solution to that rather than wasting our time with your mindless
> trolling.
>
>   
This is tangentially related to this topic (and I am not trying to put 
cygwin down, just discussing my problem).

John originally posted the timing results for his scripts, and what 
peaked my interest is that the timing on widows+cygwin was much slower 
than on the Mac.

On a thread that I started yesterday (see: slow bash command line and 
scripts).  I noted that my bash is very sluggish, and the script 
execution very slow.  The CPU is mostly idle.  The situation did not 
improve even after I implemented the suggested fixes (PATH cleanup).

Could my problem be related to some other windows/security software 
installed by the IT department (we have Preventia installed)?  (hmm, 
even I can answer that as :sure it could, but how to verify it?  I 
cannot remove Preventia.  I guess that in my ignorance I am still hoping 
a wizard (or witch) will speed-up my cygwin with a wave of a wand.)

Thanks,

Mirko




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