X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 10:58:21 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: [Ping Python maintainer]: enhancement request Message-ID: <20070501145821.GH17841@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20070501120623 DOT GA3824 AT tishler DOT net> <46374055 DOT 9080803 AT byu DOT net> <20070501142258 DOT GE17841 AT trixie DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 03:30:59PM +0100, Thorsten Kampe wrote: >* Christopher Faylor (Tue, 1 May 2007 10:22:58 -0400) >>On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 02:59:20PM +0100, Thorsten Kampe wrote: >>>* Eric Blake (Tue, 01 May 2007 07:27:49 -0600) >>>>According to Thorsten Kampe on 5/1/2007 7:11 AM: >>>>>Both things are actually the same under Cygwin (tested on my FAT32 >>>>>flash drive and under Windows XP NTFS). >>>> >>>>True only for FAT and FAT32, which don't support hard links at all. >>>> >>>>>NTFS supports hard links but these are likely not the same as the Unix >>>>>hard links >>>> >>>>Actually, NTFS hard links are supported, and cygwin uses them >>>>(setup.exe, however, currently does not, so making a hard link in a >>>>package won't matter, since setup.exe turns it into a copy anyway). >>>> >>>>>and Cygwin ln does not create the Windows ones. >>>> >>>>Actually, cygwin ln resorts to whatever cygwin1.dll does in the link() >>>>syscall, and in the case of an NTFS drive, this creates an NTFS hard >>>>link. >>> >>>You are right. Unfortunately you cannot "see" hard links in Cmd or 4NT >>>"dir" output (while softlinks are displayed as junctions). >> >>That's incorrect. DIR does display hard links, at least on XP. > >It displays the file but no information that this is "only" a hard >link. With ls you have "-i" to check the inode... It doesn't matter what DIR displays. I don't think it's fruitful to spend a lot of time worrying about how the non-POSIX, non-LINUX, MS-DOS shell interacts with the more advanced things that Cygwin does. The whole point of Cygwin is to make things better so that you don't have to use MS-DOS tools. Anyway, I'm only still typing because I'm trying to make sure that there are no misconceptions in this thread which will come back to haunt in the future. I don't think that a hard link is the way to go unless someone wants to fix setup.exe. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/