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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
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Subject: Re: Support for st_birthtime
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On Mar 26 14:10, James Youngman wrote:
> On 3/26/07, Eric Blake <ebb9 AT byu DOT net> wrote:
> >Corinna only replied to the cygwin list.  It looks like Windows will
> >populate st_birthtime with st_ctime when reading filesystems that don't
> >support birthtime.

Er, sorry, but I didn't say that.  I said that all Windows functions
returning filetimes will return a creation time.  We can only work with
the values given.  I never found a situation in which the creation time
is not set.  And if it's set, we must trust the value.

Native Windows file systems always maintain a real creation time and
Samba fakes it.  Samba sets the creation time to the minimum value of
the stat members st_ctime, st_mtime and st_atime.

The only timestamp I ever found to be 0 is the ChangeTime.  This is the
fourth timestamp maintained by the SMB protocol as well as by native NT
functions and it's meaning is equivalent to st_ctime.  This timestamp is
not returned by Win32 funtions, but Cygwin uses the native NT functions
so we get a valid st_ctime as long as the file system supports it.  NTFS
returns a valid ChangeTime.  FAT returns 0, in which case Cygwin sets
st_ctime = st_mtime.

Unfortunately Samba sets the ChangeTime not to st_ctime, but to
st_mtime, even if the underlying filesystem supports st_ctime.  However,
as I mentioned above, if the timestamp is valid, we have to trust it.
We have no other way to evaluate a value.


Corinna

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