X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org X-YMail-OSG: MgXkuXMVM1myiRzLBVjfynI3pi7fepeTnFXRO8u7eo5Ts2eCgkCHSkTpNQEjQ9Mz1rc.ML83_BFMBWtLip8QcmWE5xtDy5OXBuL.hbDzVZWtbwP8Ftf_q2aMCDiM7cVWoHvpgJXxRKLBxyo- Message-ID: <46033384.5070908@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:55:16 -0700 From: Tim Prince Reply-To: tprince AT computer DOT org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Building GCC 4.3.0 on Cygwin... References: <4602845D DOT 8020806 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> <46029F82 DOT 1604112 AT dessent DOT net> <20070322154146 DOT GA28908 AT trixie DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> In-Reply-To: <20070322154146.GA28908@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please AT cygwin DOT com wrote: > There is no conspiracy. What is needed is for there to be a vocal > advocate on the gcc list for Windows patches. I can only approve a very > limited amount of stuff so we need gcc global maintainers to approve the > majority of Windows fixes. I didn't call it a conspiracy, but I myself have been the recipient of comments from Microsoft personnel like "we don't want you using cygwin, we won't fix Windows bugs which are reported mainly by cygwin users." I don't claim to see uniformity in positions taken by people representing Microsoft. The people you mention are not the only ones who have discontinued visible activity after taking a prominent role in cygwin. Not that I have the competence to solve any such problems, but if you check gcc-testsuite you should see that I have posted the greatest number of cygwin results the last 10 years, since well before my present employment. The average time for action on the few gcc PR's and patches I have proposed exceeds a year, so I don't claim an effective record. If evidence is presented that my doing so has hindered the success of cygwin, or constitutes a conflict of interest, I will not attempt to resume testing. I won't comment on the magnitude of efforts (sometimes successful) by non-open software vendors to get even treatment from Microsoft; so I mention my obligation to disclaim any relationship between what I say here and my employer's activities. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/