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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:33:51 -0600
From: Greg Youngdahl <gyoungdahl AT sbcglobal DOT net>
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Subject: Re: Cygwin and Windows Vista support
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Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
> Carlo Florendo wrote:
> 
>> Neeraj Garg (TRANSPORT) wrote:
>>
>>> I am not sure if that was request for help or just a witty comment 
>>> back.  I am willing to help Cygwin dev get in touch with appropriate 
>>> folks in Windows Vista team to resolve the issue.
>>>   
>>
>>
>> It was a witty comment and it really involves the windows kernel.   In 
>> any case, please do all you can so that your Vista team contacts read 
>> this (c/o Corinna Vinschen)
>>
>> http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1020271&SiteID=1&mode=1 
>> <http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1020271&SiteID=1&mode=1> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I know CreateProcess call should have worked.  
>>
>>
>> Yes, it should have, at least, in older windows versions.  But vista 
>> has had some sort of security elevation issues that causes process 
>> creation problems.
>>
>>> I am not in that team to give you information on what has changed in 
>>> Vista compared to XP.  All I can say is that I would like to see the 
>>> product fixed and am willing to offer help.
>>>
>>> PS:  Some Vista users mentioned to me that Cygwin does not work and 
>>> hence I am involved to make sure we can work together to make it work.
>>>
>>> If any dev would like to work with Vista dev team to get the product 
>>> ready soon, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Neeraj
>>>   
>>
>>
>>
>> There have been discussions lately, precisely on process spawning on 
>> Cygwin. It appears to be a serious "security" bug on Vista.  For 
>> details, read the thread started by Corinna Vinschen (senior cygwin 
>> developer) on:

Wholy crap - Microsoft really is insane.  This is not a "security bug", 
it is yet another example of the sort of design philosophy that makes 
Windows the pile of S**t that it is.  6 million lines (Vista is 
presumably much more than even that - thats the number I heard for XP) 
of that kind of thinking is why virus/spy authors have such an easy 
task.  Microsoft really doesn't have any idea what it takes to make a 
system secure, do they?

--
Greg

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