X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:07:37 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: bash-3.1-7 BUG Message-ID: <20060914020737.GC24899@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <091320060438 DOT 11140 DOT 45078B490008FD8600002B8422007610640A050E040D0C079D0A AT comcast DOT net> <20060913052510 DOT GB1256 AT trixie DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <45089854 DOT 8010705 AT scytek DOT de> <20060914001902 DOT GB24899 AT trixie DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <4508ABAF DOT 5090408 AT scytek DOT de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4508ABAF.5090408@scytek.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 06:09:03PM -0700, Volker Quetschke wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 04:46:28PM -0700, Volker Quetschke wrote: >(snip) >> >>Do I have to make the observation again that whether this is the case >>or not, it is not a primary goal of the Cygwin project to support these >>people? > >Yes. Did it ever cross your mind that the whole "Linux on Windows" >thing is pretty useless if it cannot be used in the "real world". Death of Cygwin predicted? Everybody panic and/or sip? >I mean, if people want to have a plain vanilla Linux thingy they can >just install it. Grab a Redhat, Suse or Debian DVD and everything >works fine. I suspect that the "Well, they can just install Linux (floppies, CDs, DVDs) if they feel like it" observation has been made several times a year for the last ten years. It's obviously not a very powerful argument since Cygwin is still here and you can't really assert that the only reason it is here is because make understood MS-DOS paths or bash dealt properly with \r\n line endings. I doubt that Eric will want to deal with the fallout of having bash not understand \r\n line endings but, if he does, it would be his decision and, again, I would support it 100%. I am very eager to see things like configure scripts work faster and if we have to drop a few scared or lazy people along the way to accomplish that goal, that's fine with me. I have no problem at all with being a part of a smaller community which doesn't need to use notepad to edit their bash scripts. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/