X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <000001c6c12d$5d409340$0100a8c0@JIREH> From: "Stephen Grant Brown" To: "Cygwin Mailing List" Subject: Fw: Permission denied Permission denied Permission deniedPermission denied Permission denied Permission denied Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:20:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender POSTFIX 1.6.2 on vfep4 X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Grant Brown" To: "Linda Walsh" Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: Re: Permission denied Permission denied Permission deniedPermission denied Permission denied Permission denied > Hi All, > I have been watching this list for about six months now and I am just > beginning to see where some people are coming from. > Yes, Windows is very poorly documented. But who reads the documentation if > the program they are running just works the way they expect it to? > Consider the addict "When all else fails, read the manual" Programs that > work for people do not need a manual. > On the 16/7 I updated cygwin and have not had start-xserver going ever > since. > It was working before I updated cygwin, and I have not had the time or > answers from xygwin-xfree to fix it. > At the moment cpp.info on my computer is corrupted. When I have time I > will find which package it is in and reinstall that packeage. > I found dpkg when I installed all of cygwin. I tried to run it and it > failed to run. I have got the stable debian source package and I am in the > process of getting it running. I spend a bit of time on it now and then. I > was reading documentation and that is why I know that cpp.info is > corrupted on my computer. > Let me assure you that if the dpkg installed by cygwin worked I would not > be reading documentation. > It is the same with start-xserver. > Yes, I too think microsoft windows is poorly documented but who cares just > so long as the programs can be used successfully. It only needs one person > to fix problem and then share the solution and everybody else benifits. > Yours Sincerely Stephen Grant Brown > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Walsh" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: Permission denied Permission denied Permission > deniedPermission denied Permission denied Permission denied > > >> Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 03:53:55PM +1200, Steve Keate wrote: >>> >>>> Are there any useful resources on finding out exactly what security >>>> mode >>>> to choose when using Cygwin, also, are there any resources on how to >>>> use >>>> mkpasswd and what arguments to use. I have scoured the net for two days >>>> looking for anything. >>>> >>>> Is cygwin now abandonware, or is support just abyssmally poor? >>>> >>> http://isbn.nu/0671723650 >>> >> --- >> Ah yeah...one of my favorite books...it's worked so well for me... >> (*cough*)...um...well it surely would if I my brain was engaged before >> acting/speaking/writing... >>> Only a very brief period of scouring the net should have led you >>> to the conclusion that this list is the primary vehicle for support. >>> >>> Since the list archives should indicate to you that there is a great >>> deal of traffic on this list, I'm at a loss to know where the >>> "abandonware" comes from. >> If I looked over this list with all of the compassionate, caring >> support, >> I might experience feelings of things being out-of-control and possibly >> experience "fear"....perhaps he spoke out of frustration? >> Even though I, of course (*cough*), am never affected by such base >> emotions. (*cough-cough*) (sorry about the cough -- something must be >> caught in my throat, ya know...;^}), I try to have compassion for those >> who do -- especially those I don't know and/or that don't know me. >> Working on Windows (even with the benefits of Cygwin) is a mightily >> frustrating experience for many (most?) people. >> >> But to pseudo-address the original posters question: >> On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 03:53:55PM +1200, Steve Keate wrote: >>> Are there any useful resources on finding out exactly what security mode >>> to choose when using Cygwin, >> --- >> If you can tell me the useful resource(s) you use that lists >> "exactly what security mode to choose when using" Windows, I or someone >> else might be able to answer the question for cygwin (in terms of the >> Windows-document detailing its security mode. >> >>> also, are there any resources on how to use >>> mkpasswd and what arguments to use. I have scoured the net for two days >>> looking for anything. >>> >> --- >> Why do you want to use Cygwin? It seeks to provide a POSIX >> (portable unix spec designed for easier interoperability between >> different unix flavors (including Linux)). If you aren't familiar >> with the POSIX (unix or linux-like) environment, you may not find >> Cygwin very easy to use or learn. But to answer your question, usually >> under *nix type systems, you learn about commands by typing: >> man #, where in this case would be >> "mkpasswd". This presumes you have the package installed. But if >> you are familiar with *nix systems, you would have likely already >> looked there. I'm not certain, but if you have installed the package >> and when you typed "man mkpasswd", you got back "No manual entry >> for mkpasswd", something may be wrong with your installation and >> you might try reinstalling the mkpasswd package (it's likely in the >> Base-section in setup). >> >> Hope this helps somewhat. If you want to see more info on how >> cygwin tries to do mapping between its userid's and NT's userid's, >> There's a reasonably good writeup @ >> *http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html >> *That page is part of the user-guide, which you can access by >> removing the "ntsec.html" part from the end of the above address. >> >> Hope this helps, and believe me, I can understand your frustration. >> In general, MS-Windows is so well documented...NOT! :-) >> >> Linda >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >> Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >> Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >> FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ >> > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/