X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org From: "John W. Eaton" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17632.65094.528377.623813@segfault.lan> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:50:46 -0400 To: Joachim Achtzehnter Cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: change in behavior of make from 3.80 to 3.81 In-Reply-To: <44E0F683.3030203@netacquire.com> References: <6 DOT 2 DOT 3 DOT 4 DOT 2 DOT 20060814153701 DOT 0b3cab80 AT pop DOT nycap DOT rr DOT com> <20060814213132 DOT GA31811 AT trixie DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <6 DOT 2 DOT 3 DOT 4 DOT 2 DOT 20060814174744 DOT 0b3d7a10 AT pop DOT nycap DOT rr DOT com> <20060814215719 DOT GA32432 AT trixie DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <44E0F683 DOT 3030203 AT netacquire DOT com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.1 X-CAE-MailScanner-Information: Please contact security AT engr DOT wisc DOT edu if this message contains a virus or has been corrupted in delivery. X-CAE-MailScanner: Found to be clean (benji) X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com A recap, as I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong): * The version of GNU Make for Cygwin used to support MS-DOS filenames. This feature was not part of GNU Make if you compiled the sources for Cygwin out of the box, but was something that was added and maintained as a separate patch. * The maintainer of the GNU Make package grew weary of maintaining the patch and decided to drop it. * Lots of people are complaining. * The maintainer of the GNU Make package for Cygwin has repeatedly made it clear that no amount of complaining will result in the patch being maintained and applied to any future GNU Make package for Cygwin. My understanding is that the central problem is the amount of effort required to update the patch with each new release of GNU Make, not that the feature itself is necessarily bad, though there may be some obscure problems such that it would be better if the feature could be optional, either with a command-line option or special Makefile directive. * You are now taking this to mean that the Cygwin maintainers don't care about users and you are suggesting that this could result in a fork of Cygwin (good luck with that). Please, this makes absolutely no sense. This whole problem could be solved if the people who are complaining about the Cygwin version of GNU Make directed their efforts toward getting a patch accepted in the GNU Make sources that handles MS-DOS style filenames when GNU Make is compiled for Cygwin. Then there would be no need to maintain a separate patch just for the Cygwin package of GNU Make. Or am I missing something? jwe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/