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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:17:58 -0700
From: Linda Walsh <cygwin AT tlinx DOT org>
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Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 03:53:55PM +1200, Steve Keate wrote:
>   
>> Are there any useful resources on finding out exactly what security mode
>> to choose when using Cygwin, also, are there any resources on how to use
>> mkpasswd and what arguments to use. I have scoured the net for two days
>> looking for anything.
>>
>> Is cygwin now abandonware, or is support just abyssmally poor?
>>     
> http://isbn.nu/0671723650
>   
---
    Ah yeah...one of my favorite books...it's worked so well for me...
(*cough*)...um...well it surely would if I my brain was engaged before
acting/speaking/writing... 
> Only a very brief period of scouring the net should have led you
> to the conclusion that this list is the primary vehicle for support.
>
> Since the list archives should indicate to you that there is a great
> deal of traffic on this list, I'm at a loss to know where the
> "abandonware" comes from.  
    If I looked over this list with all of the compassionate, caring 
support,
I might experience feelings of things being out-of-control and possibly
experience "fear"....perhaps he spoke out of frustration? 

    Even though I, of course (*cough*), am never affected by such base
emotions. (*cough-cough*) (sorry about the cough -- something must be
caught in my throat, ya know...;^}), I try to have compassion for those
who do -- especially those I don't know and/or that don't know me. 

Working on Windows (even with the benefits of Cygwin) is a mightily
frustrating experience for many (most?) people.

    But to pseudo-address the original posters question:
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 03:53:55PM +1200, Steve Keate wrote:
> Are there any useful resources on finding out exactly what security mode
> to choose when using Cygwin,
---
    If you can tell me the useful resource(s) you use that lists
"exactly what security mode to choose when using" Windows, I or someone
else might be able to answer the question for cygwin (in terms of the
Windows-document detailing its security mode.

>  also, are there any resources on how to use
> mkpasswd and what arguments to use. I have scoured the net for two days
> looking for anything.
>   
---
    Why do you want to use Cygwin?  It seeks to provide a POSIX
(portable unix spec designed for easier interoperability between
different unix flavors (including Linux)).  If you aren't familiar
with the POSIX (unix or linux-like) environment, you may not find
Cygwin very easy to use or learn.  But to answer your question, usually
under *nix type systems, you learn about commands by typing:
man <command-name> #, where <command-name> in this case would be
"mkpasswd".  This presumes you have the package installed.  But if
you are familiar with *nix systems, you would have likely already
looked there.   I'm not certain, but if you have installed the package
and when you typed "man mkpasswd", you got back "No manual entry
for mkpasswd", something may be wrong with your installation and
you might try reinstalling the mkpasswd package (it's likely in the
Base-section in setup).

    Hope this helps somewhat.  If you want to see more info on how
cygwin tries to do mapping between its userid's and NT's userid's,
There's a reasonably good writeup @
*http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html
*That page is part of the user-guide, which you can access by
removing the "ntsec.html" part from the end of the above address.

    Hope this helps, and believe me, I can understand your frustration.
In general, MS-Windows is so well documented...NOT! :-)

Linda


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