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I've just had a bunch of problems with cygwin, including but not limited 
to those experienced here: 
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2006-01/msg00798.html
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2006-01/msg00798.html

As it turns out in the end, these have been down to running setup.exe 
with cygwin running and getting the mesage about needing to reboot. 
However, even after reboot the system has been broken: inodes listed as 
changed, cp saying that files were changed during copy, etc. This all 
seems to be down to the setup.exe run. After reverting everything to 
previous, the problem has gone away entirely. I suggest that setup.exe 
needs robusting, at the very least giving a strong warning on update 
BEFORE changing things if the files are in use.

A general message to close running programs before installing is used as 
a cop-out by lots of other programs and is usually overkill, and thus 
ignored. So it needs to be clear and specific, if it is to be effective.

Also, having used google to search the archives, the cygwin mailing list 
does seem to be pretty unhelpful on some of these issues as most 
enquiries from those not deeply steeped in the lore of cygwin get quoted 
the problem reporting FAQ rather than any attempt made to help them. 
Maybe I've been spoiled by the support I've received on other free 
forums and from commercial companies who don't tell their customers to 
push off.

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