X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org From: "Dave Korn" To: Subject: RE: Define _POSIX_SOURCE in cygwin's features.h? Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:22:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20060112181339.GC30108@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 07:08:32PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> But a portable program should _not_ assume that #defining _GNU_SOURCE >> implies that _POSIX_SOURCE. If a program not only needs posix stuff but >> also some GNU extras, it should #define _GNU_SOURCE _and_ _POSIX_SOURCE >> itself. > > I don't care about portable programs. I'm interested in hearing if this > will fix problems with programs which build without problem on linux. > > cgf But it seems that it only builds "without problem" on Linux by chance, not by design. I don't see why we should try and fix this in cygwin. Consider how many times people come here and say "My app works fine on Linux, how come it just dies with a SEGV on cygwin" and someone points out the trivially obvious buffer overrun and we have to explain how it only ever worked on Linux by luck because of differences in the environment and the way the stack is set up. Now, we could put masses of code into cygwin to try and reproduce whatever feature it is of the Linux memory layout that allows these programs to get away with overrunning their buffers and not crash, but I think that would be a deeply silly and overly-complicated attempt to 'help' users with potentially lots of side-effects that would cause problems for everyone, not just writers of buggy programs, and I think that this is an (admittedly less extreme) example of the same thing. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today.... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/