X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org From: "Dave Korn" To: Subject: RE: complete newbie Q Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:18:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20051129171307.GD25782@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 04:52:05PM -0000, Dave Korn wrote: >> Dave Korn wrote: >>> porting effort. (MinGW provides _some_ of the POSIX syscalls, but it's >>> a massively less-complete implementation than Cygwin. MSYS provides >>> more, >> >> ... but it's not included in the cygwin mingw distribution.) > > MSYS is just a (very) old version of cygwin with some hacks to translate > path names and a different way of dealing with the mount table. I know that! > So, > MSYS will never be included in the cygwin distribution. It wouldn't > make any sense to do so. Yes it would. It would allow people to write "gcc -mno-cygwin -lmsys". As long as there's going to be a mingw cross-build environment in cygwin at all, it would be entirely reasonable to distribute libmsys.a next to libmingw32.a, libmingwex.a, libmingwthrd.a, etc. Now, I agree that cygwin isn't mingw, and it would be pointless to attempt to include mingw-builds of *every* imaginable lib with cygwin, and that people who want mingw should get mingw, and that the cross-compiler distributed in cygwin is just a convenience facility and does not attempt to be a fully-featured dev environment, but even so: a) msys /almost/ counts as a core library of mingw, so b) it _would_ "make sense" to include it, just as much so as to not include it, and c) any reason for doing so or not doing so isn't to do with the fact that it's so similar to (being derived from) cygwin, but is to do with the cost/benefit ratio of including an extra library in the cygwin mingw cross-environment. IOW it's not remotely as daft a suggestion as your words might be taken to imply. PS: Aren't hippos great?[*] cheers, DaveK http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=hippos&sourceid=mozilla-search&ie=utf-8&oe =utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&sa=N&tab=wi -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today.... -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/