Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <3da3d8310511031525w1f1c77ffu32256d87c95e29ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:25:17 -0500 From: Eliah Kagan To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: WINE on Cygwin In-Reply-To: <20051103224535.GE17650@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <005101c5e080$1edf3ef0$8002a7c0 AT dir DOT sparsi DOT com> <1131033651 DOT 24439 DOT 32 DOT camel AT zipoli DOT prudsys DOT com> <1131036882 DOT 24441 DOT 41 DOT camel AT zipoli DOT prudsys DOT com> <3da3d8310511031420y3643bde1o59413970a0a473b5 AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <20051103224535 DOT GE17650 AT trixie DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id jA3NPRst018009 On 11/3/05, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 05:20:57PM -0500, Eliah Kagan wrote: > >On 11/3/05, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > >>On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 16:36 +0000, Andy Moreton wrote: > >>>>Sometimes it's useful to have a separation between the program and > >>>>windows. You could trace all registry or file access of a program. > >>>>Wine would be useful for remote program usage since it exports the > >>>>display via X11. > >>> > >>>This still sounds fairly pointless. the tools from sysinternals.com > >>>allow you to monitor all file and registry access from an application. > >>>A VNC client will solve your remote operation needs. > >>> > >>>So what is the real reason for wanting to do something so perverse ? > >> > >>Because it can be done! > >> > >>VNC is slow, there is no integration with the local desktop. You can't > >>work without interfering with the local desktop. Using wine just to > >>redirect the graphic display is overkill but unfortunatly the most > >>promising solution. > >> > >>Separation is yet another reason. > > > >Not only is VNC slow, but VNC only lets one user log on and run > >graphical programs at a time on Windows. It is possible to have > >multiple simultaneous Remote Desktop sessions, but only with Windows > >Terminal Server, which is expensive and pay-per-license (you need a > >license for each login "slot"), and only runs on Windows Server > >operating systems, which are also expensive. It would be very, very > >nice to be able to run graphical Windows programs remotely using ssh > >-X. > > > >Does anyone know if there any other way to do this, besides with Wine? > >(Perhaps something more native?) > > Since we seem to have gotten pretty far afield from anything > cygwin-related (Corinna has already indicated that Cygwin doesn't do > what was originally requested) maybe it would be best to take this to > another forum. > > I do have to say that this may be the first time I've ever heard anyone > indicate that they wanted to use cygwin because it gave them a speed > advantage, though... > > cgf cgf-- It would seem to me that making an arbitrary window application use X11 to draw its windows would involve cygwin. I recognize that as moderator, it's your call. If you say nothing more on it, nor shall I. Would it be appropriate to move this to the Cygwin-X list? -Eliah -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/