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Subject: Re: File Naming Between Cygwin and Windows
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:09:56 -0700
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Larry
great answer.  thanks
/Ross

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Hall" <lh-no-personal-replies-please AT cygwin DOT com>
To: "Ross MacGillivray" <ross_macgillivray AT yahoo DOT ca>; <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: File Naming Between Cygwin and Windows


> At 01:55 PM 7/10/2005, you wrote:
>>Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin <at> cygwin.com> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 10 06:03, Ross MacGillivray wrote:
>>> > Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin <at> cygwin.com> writes:
>>> > > Usually it chokes, like the underlying OS.  As a workaround you'll
>>> > > find so called "managed mounts", which only work on fresh created
>>> > > directories so managed mounts are no general solution.
>>> >
>>> > Do you know happen to know what the 'standard' solution is, when 
>>> > running
>>> > KDE-on-Cygwin, for this incompatibility in file naming between cygwin
>>> > and windows?
>>>
>>> There is no incompatibility in file naming between Cygwin and Windows.
>>> If KDE is using filenames which are not useable on Windows, then KDE
>>> is incompatibility in file naming to Windows (and Cygwin).
>>>
>>> Corinna
>>>
>>
>>Yes, I agree - poor choice of words.  There is no incompatibility between
>>cygwin and windows.
>>
>>The question I was trying to raise is:
>>  "Is managed mounts the most appropriate work around in Cygwin for an 
>> issue
>>   which may be, admittedly, caused by KDE-on-Cygwin?"
>
>
> It is the only way currently.
>
>
>>Also as a future Cygwin service would it not make sense to have a 
>>translation
>>layer in Cygwin which automatically translates conformant linux/unix names 
>>into
>>conformant windows names.   If this is what managed mounts does, I 
>>apologize
>>in advance, since I am not familiar with managed mounts.
>
>
> I doubt adding a translation layer to Cygwin's already complex and time-
> consuming path handling code is the way to go here but I assume if someone
> could come up with a patch that addressed these concerns, it might be
> acceptable.  But this would be a very high bar to meet.
>
> Managed mounts don't do a translation in the way you described.  They 
> encode
> the illegal character in a way that the Windows file system accepts.  In
> Windows, the file name looks quite different but in a managed mount
> directory, the file looks exactly as requested.  There is no mapping
> of characters as you suggest in your scheme.  You should look at and play
> around with them a little to get a feel for how they work.
>
> Really, the easiest thing to do though is make the file name created be
> more generally portable.  This should be possible in the Cygwin port at
> least, even if the upstream maintainers wouldn't consider such a change
> (and I don't know that they wouldn't).
>
>
>
> --
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