Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Eric Blake Subject: Re: cygwin-1.5.16-1: FIFOs broken Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <20050502145804 DOT GB29132 AT trixie DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-IsSubscribed: yes Christopher Faylor cygwin.com> writes: > > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 02:36:12AM -0400, Lev S Bishop wrote: > >On linux, both keep waiting for someone to write to the fifo. On > >cygwin, when the second cat tries to listen on the fifo, they both > >exit. I don't know how fifos are supposed to work, but I'm guessing > >cygwin gets it wrong here. > > Yes, this is one of the reasons that I can't say "fifos work fine" in > cygwin. Why not look at how POSIX defines FIFOs to work. XBD 3.162 defines a FIFO as a special file whose behavior is further specified in open(2), read(2), write(2), and lseek(2). open(2) states that when opening a FIFO, O_RDWR is undefined (you can only portably open a FIFO for just reading or just writing, so bash's `echo <>fifo' evokes undefined behavior). Then, if O_NONBLOCK is set, O_RDONLY succeeds but O_WRONLY fails unless there is a previously open reader; if clear, O_RDONLY blocks until there is a writer and O_WRONLY blocks until there is a reader. lseek(2) states that seeking on a FIFO fails with ESPIPE. write(2) states that there are atomicity requirements on writes less than PIPE_BUF bytes. It also states whether the write will succeed, fail with EPIPE, or with EAGAIN, based on blocking mode and available space in the pipe to the reader. But in all cases, it will never return 0 (pipes always make progress, or in non-blocking mode return an error immediately). read(2) states that a reader succeeds with 0 for end-of-file when there is no writer, fails immediately with EAGAIN if there is a writer but no data available in non-blocking mode, or blocks until the writer provides data (or the writer closes) in blocking mode. When using redirections from the shell command line, you are opening the pipe in blocking mode. So it shouldn't matter whether a writing process or a reading process is spawned first (the first end blocks until the second end has opened its descriptor), but neither process should complete until the last writing process closes its file descriptor (perhaps by exiting) to give the reader(s) an end-of-file indication, or the last reader closes its file descriptor to give the writer(s) an EPIPE. The trick of `echo 999999 >fifo&' ensures that there is a writer for a very long time, so that a reader never gets EOF. -- Eric Blake -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/