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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:36:05 +0100
From: Reini Urban <rurban AT x-ray DOT at>
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To: Theo Verelst <theover AT tiscali DOT nl>
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Subject: Re: Sound generator starting package for Linux/Cygwin
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Theo Verelst schrieb:
> Reini Urban wrote:
>> Theo Verelst schrieb:
>>> I've started a sound generator package on Linux and Cygwin consisting
>>> ...
>>>    http://82.168.209.239/Soundtest
>>
>> Why not use the standard puredata, which is also based on tcl/tk and 
>> portaudio, but is stable and mature?
> 
> Well, as quick response, to begin with I didn't know about that package.
> Second, having quickly looked at it, it looks like the package I've seen
> at IRCAM, which frankly sounded not so good at all.

??
this must have been an old version. pd is imho simply the best, and the 
facto standard.

> The approach of readable messages to control a sound core is hardly new, 
> I've used it decades ago in other context such as graphics (e.g. AVS), 
> and I liked (and still like) the approach in combination with a good 
> interpreted language, for which this example is meant.

we'll see.
pd uses some kind of "graphical" interpreted language, which connects 
dlopen'ed compiled objects. (highly optimized)

I forward this to pd-dev @ iem.at, which is right around my corner.

> Pd probably stems back to NeXT, which as first desktop had a builtin DSP
> for sound processing. I'm interested in DSP, too, (see 
> http://82.168.209.239/Dsp , http://82.168.209.239/Xilinx ), I'm sure
> it's quite an issue to do sound algorithms right 
> (http://mini.net/tcl/11991)...

yep, that's true.
pd is the open source version for ircam's MAX, which ran on NeXT and 
irix and Mac.

> I'll check Pd, but am quite sure I don't want to go that way myself.

> Oh, the idea was also to try out an approach which could make scripting 
> and C core work on Linux and cygwin, preferably with as little porting
> effort as possible, and also in a distributed way: more than one sound 
> cores on different machines.
> 
> And I've made a (very complicated) sound generator core ( 
> http://82.168.209.239/Articles/pms.html ) for string simulation
> (presented at FOSDEM last year http://82.168.209.239/Fosdem ) which I 
> want to be able to control not just over midi in real time, and though
> I'd experiment a bit with a practical frame for that.
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/

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