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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:05:35 +0200
From: Reini Urban <rurban AT x-ray DOT at>
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Gerrit P. Haase schrieb:
> if you ask me, the PHP build system is broken.

I said before, that the php build system is horrible. Something to hate. 
But it has gotten much better.
broken shared lib targets are really matter of libtool.

> I tried to build 5.0.1, I'm getting no lipphp, no shared modules,

libphp.a builds fine. Then the problem begins. But I still believe that 
the problem is in my lack of understanding the dirty details of dlltool 
and friends.

> libdb is not found...  

same as with apache :)

> If you specify an extension and the relevant
> dependency is not available the configure exits, it is terrible, this
> sucks really.

agreed. there should be an apache-like --enable-most option, which tries 
to find the installed libraries.

adding them expliticly gives you at least the configure line
output in <?phpinfo?>.

> How do I need to configure to get a shared library?  Shared modules?

shared modules are built automatically.

> Why isn't there a howto about this in the source dist included?  Who
> is responsible for this broken system?

I never cared to read their devel mailinglist. I only cared to use it, 
and struggle with configure from time to time.
I didn't trust their abilities too much, in comparison to most other 
languages developers (lisp, perl, ...). But I like the product!

> If I call `make libphp5.la` I get a static archive, no DLL, it is
> weird...
> I hate this package since I tried to build it the first time.

:)

> Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 um 17:38 schriebst du:
>>Should we build statically?
>>no. that's about 17MB for each php.exe or dll :)
> My executable is 8 MB stripped.
> 
>>you want pdflib and pspell also?
>>see my list. pdflib is non-free I think.
> 
> 
> I don't know, pdflib-lite is available as source, isn't the license
> OSI approved?  I don't have aspell installed, but if it is available
> as shared module, why not?
> 
> 
>>I'd need xdebug also, maybe apd.
>>best would be to add all the modules which are supported and in the 
>>nightly snaps.
> 
>>>That would be OK if all the extensions are built as modules, but building
>>>everything into one php executable would make it pretty big, wouldn't it?
> 
> 
>>the extensions are just shared interfaces to the existing dll.
>>only mysql and some esoteric ones, which are not in the usual setup are
>>static.
> 
> 
> Why don't I get a shared libphp?  How to configure it to get it with
> shared modules?
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/

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