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From: "Ken Thompson" <ken DOT thompson AT gtri DOT gatech DOT edu>
To: <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
Subject: RE: Bogus assumption prevents d2u/u2d/conv/etal working on mixed files.
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 07:39:45 -0400
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I don't think the behavior should be changed. d2u stands for dos to unix
which means \r\n to \n.  Why would one expect a dos to unix utility to
convert mixed line terminator files.  If you need such a utility, then add
one but don't take a utility that does dos to unix and try to turn it in to
"anything" to unix or if you do then change the name. Just my 2 cents worth


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:33 AM

> Subject: Re: Bogus assumption prevents d2u/u2d/conv/etal working on
> mixed files.
>
>
> David Fritz wrote:
> > You guys are missing the point.  Charles Wilson mentioned a side effect
> > of the code at issue in the original post and suggested that it was
> > valuable.
>
> I think there is some misunderstanding about the cygutils package.  I
> did not write any of it.(*)  I do not defend any of the design decisions
> that were made by the original coders; it's no skin off my nose -- so
> comments like "It should according to the thinking in this thread." fail
> to move me -- except as a data point that GVanSickle really REALLY
> dislikes the current behavior.<g>
>
> (*) Well, maybe the hexdump program or the silly ascii chart, but it's
> been so long I don't remember anymore.
>
>
> The d2u/u2d progs were some code I thought, back in the dawn of time,
> would be useful on the cygwin platform -- at least *I* had need of a
> dos2unix converter all the time.  So I found the code, adapted it, and
> put it in my "kit", which was called the "misc" package back then.
>
> Now, I remember, when first porting the code for cygwin, wondering WHY
> it did certain things certain ways -- especially the "check the first
> line and bail out" stuff.  All I could figure, at the time, were the two
> reasons I posted in this thread.
>
> I never said I agree with those reasons -- personally, I hate 'rm -i'
> and the like.  But *I am not willing* to unilaterally change behavior of
> tools that may adversely affect users, without a damn good reason.
> Unfortunately, "it offends a single user's sensibilities" -- even mine
> -- doesn't quite rise to that level.
>
> And THAT's why I asked for more discussion.  I'm getting the feeling
> that a preponderance of users -- at least, the ones actually responding
> to this thread -- dislike the current behavior, or at least wouldn't
> mind a change away from the current Microsoft-Bob-like behavior.  I'd
> like to see what some other users, who haven't yet stated their
> opinions, have to say...
>
> --
> Chuck
>
>
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