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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:03:34 -0800
From: "Christopher M. Balz" <cbalz AT andrew DOT cmu DOT edu>
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Organization: TreeLogic Software Engineering
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Subject: Re: More on 'setup' fails and breaks pre-existing Cygwin installation: "The Rational Rose Files" & path stuff.
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Dave,

Well, from the DOS command prompt I tried:
---snip---
cd C:\cygwin
PATH C:\WinNT\system32;C:\WinNT;C:\WinNT\system32\Wbem
bash --login -i
---snip---

and I also tried this in my .bashrc (all one line):

export 
PATH="/cygdrive/c/WinNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WinNT:/cygdrive/c/WinNT/system32/Wbem:$JAVA_HOME/bin:/home/Administrator/code:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin/."

(which checks out:
 TLSWE-LAPTOP-A0  Wed Mar 24 23:00:47
~/echo $PATH
/cygdrive/c/WinNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WinNT:/cygdrive/c/WinNT/system32/Wbem:/cy
gdrive/c/j2sdk1.4.2_04/bin:/home/Administrator/code:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/loca
l/bin/.
 TLSWE-LAPTOP-A0  Wed Mar 24 23:00:52
~/
)

and still the same problem: a three minute wait between shell commands.  
Should I try to re-install, setting the PATH in such a way that the 
install would complete correctly (that is my original symptom)?  If so, 
how would I do this?

Thank you very much.

 - Chris Balz.

Christopher M. Balz wrote:

> I didn't suspect Rational Rose since I've run Cygwin fine when it was 
> my previous Cygwin installation and when Rose had already been 
> installed.  Apparently however, from your comments, it looks as if the 
> MKS system makes breaks the Cygwin installation.  Is there a way (or a 
> place I could look to find out) where I could protect the path that 
> Cygwin uses?
>
> Thank you so much for your help.
>
> - Chris
>
> Dave Korn wrote:
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
>>> Sent: 22 March 2004 13:39
>>>   
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Christopher M. Balz wrote:
>>>   
>>
>>
>>>> I did run
>>>>
>>>> "c:\cygwin\bin\bash --norc"
>>>>
>>>> After a couple minutes the command prompt gave me:
>>>>
>>>>    C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32>c:\cygwin\bin\bash --norc
>>>>    bash-2.05b$
>>>>
>>>> This command prompt cannot find any commands ('ls' is 'not found').
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>> Please re-read the message below.  It says that "you'll need to 
>>> explicitly prepend "/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin" to your PATH 
>>> before you'll be able to run any commands".
>>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>  I notice also that there are already directories in Christopher's  path
>> called 'bin', 'x11', and 'mksnt'.  [ Light bulbs should be appearing 
>> in the
>> air above heads about now, upon seeing the dreaded letters 'm', 'k' 
>> and 's'
>> in that particular order..... ]
>>
>>  This last one in particular makes me wonder if the Rational tools 
>> you have
>> installed maybe include or are based around the Mortice Kern Systems 
>> Unix
>> toolset.  It's a well-known problem that if you try and run cygwin while
>> having MKS tools in the $PATH they can sometimes clash.  I'd want to 
>> start a
>> dos command shell, then remove all the crud and set a minimal $PATH, 
>> and try
>> again: something like this at the command prompt might work...
>>
>> ---snip---
>> cd C:\cygwin
>> PATH C:\WinNT\system32;C:\WinNT;C:\WinNT\system32\Wbem
>> bash --login -i
>> ---snip---
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Hmm...  I suspect that it takes this long to determine the hostname 
>>> of your machine.
>>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>  Did you notice that it's the same as his $LOGONSERVER?  It shouldn't 
>> take
>> that long to look up a hostname when you're logged on directly at the
>> keyboard of the domain controller.
>>
>>  But of all the environment variables, I think this is the one that's 
>> doing
>> the most damage:
>>
>> ---snip from cygcheck.out---
>> SHELL = `C:\PROGRA~1\RATIONAL\RATION~1\NUTCROOT\mksnt\sh.exe'
>> ---snip---
>>
>>  Ouch.  So everytime Cygwin bash tries to fork a subprocess, it 
>> launches it
>> using MKS sh.  No wonder it loses!
>>
>> ---snip from cygcheck.out---
>> TERM = `nutc'
>> ---snip---
>>
>>  Wouldn't have thought cygwin would make much sense of that either.
>>
>>    cheers,      DaveK
>>  
>>
>
>


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