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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:42:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu>
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To: "Edward S. Peschko" <esp5 AT pge DOT com>
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Edward S. Peschko wrote:

> > I also know that build-depends is a real headache for Red Hat package
> > maintainers so I'm not in a hurry to foist that extra bookkeeping
> > headache on cygwin maintainers.  It's moderate effort for small
> > gain given that there are other more important things that could
> > be done with and to setup.exe.
> >
> > However, if you are building the whole package, then why not just
> > download...  the whole package?
>
> well, I need to know which ones to *build* first, and which order
> to build them.. Like I said I want to do it with as few deps as possible,
> if possible just g++ and make, and shell.

I believe I mentioned this before, but anyway...  Most maintainers put the
build requirements in the Cygwin-specific READMEs in their packages.

> As for the reason *why* I'm doing this from scratch, well, it gives
> me freedom to encorporate packages that aren't technically 'cygwin'
> packages, host patches that may or may not become part of a standard
> distributions, and build - or attempt to build - via other compilers
> and linkers.
>
> > >I'm assuming that these correspond to the -src.tar.bz2 pcakages inside
> > >of the repository, and each one of these has .  However there are
> > >makefiles which coordinate the build, above these directories (at level
> > >winsup).  I'm assuming that these aren't part of any package that is
> > >distributed.  I could be wrong.
> >
> > Could be, and are.  There is no need to speculate when simple inspection
> > of the source tarballs and of the CVS repository would show you how
> > things are laid out.  There is no need to assume that things are broken
> > rather than working.
>
> ok, I misread. 'cygrunsrv' for cygsrv, assumed 'cygwin' == cygwin,
> mingw-runtime == mingw, etc. In order to do a 'simple inspection' I
> would need to download these all. I thought it'd be simpler to ask.

You wouldn't.  The listing of each package is available on the web, at
<http://cygwin.com/packages/>.  You can also grep for a particular file.

> anyways, I'll plow through it and see what happens.
> Ed

One thing that *would*, IMO, be useful is getting access to
Cygwin-specific package READMEs from the package listing pages.  CGF,
would keeping the READMEs on the server, even compressed, be a nuisance?
If not, the script that generates package contents could be modified to
include a link to the README...
	Igor
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