Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <400C0E45.3020102@tlinx.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:05:09 -0800 From: linda w User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: MS offers "Services For Unix" free of charge References: <20040116115756 DOT GA1043 AT linux_rln DOT harvest> <9492 DOT 1074248993 AT www67 DOT gmx DOT net> <20040119115828 DOT GA1904 AT linux_rln DOT harvest> In-Reply-To: <20040119115828.GA1904@linux_rln.harvest> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes FYI: The 3.0 version went up for the cost of the CD a few months ago so I ordered a copy -- was a disk hog, so eventually removed it. But few things: It always has to have the "interix" subsystem proces running to do anything. In typical MS fashion, it setup and started demons for all services -- not exactly configured for security. It didn't have ssh but did have rsh/rlogin. It ran about 5% slower on a large file i/o bound 'find' command. Sorta odd since it was file i/o bound.... Definitely won't give people a good taste for linux/unix as far as speed goes. Also, they include ksh and not bash....no vim, just vi....bunch a weirdo's! But running on a 'too old" laptop with not quite enough memory as it is and a bit tight on disk space, I decided to take it off until I could at least get a larger hard disk partition on a faster HD for my win stuff . They don't seem to differentiate between unix and windows processes, so their kill, ps, and /proc systems all function tranparently with the existing windows processes. I went back to try the find the link I ordered it from, but couldn't find the 'free' link, so never bothered to post on it here...it's nice that 3.5 is free, but for existing win customers, it'll likely be not much more than a curiosity due to the speed slowdown. Was neat to see crond, initd, etc...be running as windows system processes....:-) -linda -- In the marketplace of "Real goods", capitalism is limited by safety regulations, consumer protection laws, and product liability. In the computer industry, what protects the consumer? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/