Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: "guenter strubinsky" To: Subject: RE: pwd option to return windows path Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:12:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: <20031022003445.GC1229@mdssirds.comp.pge.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Note-from-DJ: This may be spam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id h9M1EEMd018623 I took the liberty to zap mr. peschko as of now from my inbox as background noise (using a microsoft product which uses paths 'correctly' aka. ms-dos style). It can't be considered spam since he does not OFFER anything of dubious or real value. I believe he would be a valuable asset to microsoft newsgroups, but his contributions to THIS mailing list consist of endless threads about opinions without any merit. I waited when he offered to tune -whatever it was; oh yes mingw/cygwin- to his liking; if he WOULD contribute more than his valuable opinions. Did not happen! But the mingw/cygwin issue got reawakened like zombies in a cheap horror flick as of this email. So instead of telling us how much cygwin sucks I would suggest he stays with windooze which seems to find his undivided approval. I do not really comprehend why he is even on this list wasting bandwidth that I need so dearly to download important illegal mp3's. Last not least, IF the information exchanged would be of any value to the community it should be led in public and not as threatened to poor Christopher again in privacy. Since this discussion -again- is of no real value to anybody I suggest that he sends private emails (and public ones) from now on to /dev/null/ so that my microsoft filtering product @ e:\program files\microsoft office\outlook.exe hasn't so much to filter. with kind regards günter strubinsky p.s. this is a personal and private opinion not to be mis-associated with this newsgroup! > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com [mailto:cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com] On Behalf > Of Edward Peschko > Sent: Tuesday, 21 October, 2003 19:35 > To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com > Subject: Re: pwd option to return windows path > > > As has been previously pointed out, the point of cygwin is to present a > > UNIX environment to users. We do not go out of our way to modify every > > executable in the distribution so that it provides an MS-DOS look and > > feel for those who are not comfortable with UNIX path names. > > > > We've provided the cygpath utility, in true UNIX fashion, as a tool > > for converting back and forth between windows and cygwin paths. You can > > use it or not. We are not going to be changing pwd, ash, bash, tcsh, > > ksh, and zsh to include cygpath options. > > > > While I fully appreciate that this may not satisfy your need to use > > MS-DOS paths in the cygwin environment it it fully consistent with > > the project goals. I'd ask that you respect the goals rather than > > consistently suggest that we should be making MS-DOS concessions. > > I'm not going to belabor the point, but this point of view makes -Mno- > cygwin > basically useless. And hence, any flag such as a MINGW mode impossible. > > In order to use it effectively, every single module/item that is ported to > mingw expects to see certain behaviors, as generated by the msys tools. > One example > was uname, here's another example - pwd. Like it or not, msys and mingw > are connected > at the hip, and the more modules I compile, the more I see this. > > It is not reasonable to expect people to port their code both to mingw > *and* > -Mno-cygwin. And since mingw is connected to win32 far more than cygwin, > people will > port to mingw in greater numbers. > > If you want to discuss this, then we can do it in private. Your request > that I > only discuss 'certain things', in 'certain boundaries' is not fair, and > I won't do it. If you disagree with what I post, please ignore it. > > But at the same time, I don't want to start another huge flame war, so > talk to me > offline if you feel strong enough about it. > > Ed > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/