Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Andrew DeFaria Subject: Re: ash does not understand '~' Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:20:01 -0700 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet AT sea DOT gmane DOT org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote: >>From: Andrew DeFaria >>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:36 PM >> >> >OS wars begin(?) - Please, do not! > > >>Non-protable to such "OSes" that don't have a more modern shell then Bourne/Ash I guess. Are there any "OSes" that don't support shells like csh, tcsh, ksh, bash? >> >> >Old info; AmigaOS had(has) very little support for fork() as all of the OS ran(runs) in the same memory space (under special circumstanses there was a vfork() though; see geekgadgets below. In addition to the "lightweight threads" that were/are standard). > >bash, and might I guess - most of those above, are/is littered with fork() calls IIUC (I have not looked). > >I'm not too sure if fork()-use is to be considered "state of the art" and thus make a containing project be considered "modern". Without really knowing I would have thought better of such projects if they'd used pthreads or some such instead. [ This statement is based on "basic OS theory" taught at university college in Sweden at least ] > >IMO your "modern shell" statement above is about the same as was stating "DOS compatible" a number of years ago. [BG: 640K ought to be enough...] > >About AmigaOS: >There was(is) a pdksh available though. It was(is) included in the "geekgadgets" unix emulation project. >Yes, geekgadgets was the same for AmigaOS as cygwin currently is for Windows. > >I believe "Fred Fish" is well known to former cygnus.com and gdb people? He was the initiatior(?) of geekgadgets, at least he held his hand on it for a long time. > >Actually this project still exists, but has a very "low profile" as most of its users and maintainers are gone. > >/Hannu E K Nevalainen, B.Sc. EE - Amiga user since '85 (the beginning) >-- printf("Timezone: %s\n", (DST)?"UTC+02":"UTC+01"); -- >--END OF MESSAGE-- > I'm not that concerned about Amiga OS. Honestly I don't know much about it. Is it even Unix like? -- A flashlight is a case for holding dead batteries. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/