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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:34:41 -0400
To: "Dan Adams" <dan AT infochi DOT com>, cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
From: Larry Hall <cygwin-lh AT cygwin DOT com>
Subject: Re: sshd setup question
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Again, please attach your '/etc/passwd' and '/etc/group' files and show
a transcript of your attempt to set /var/empty persmissions along with
the output from 'ls -l /var'.

Larry


At 11:43 PM 9/1/2003, Dan Adams you wrote:
>I followed both of those suggestions. I retried that script and it seems to
>generate the key files each time it is run now. As far as that mySQL thing,
>I renamed that dll file and will use another program temporarily, until I
>can figure this thing out.
>
>Once I did those two things, I still see an error that looks the same,
>although the contents of the sshd.log file is now:
>    /var/empty must be owned by root and not group or world-writable.
>
>My main trouble with this is that I seem to be having trouble getting the
>permissions for that directory like it says, I can get it chmod'ed to 744
>easily, but I can't seem to get its ownership to root or system either one.
>I am using a windows 2000 machine, although that may have been in my
>cygcheck file that I sent. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get this
>permission thing set.
>
>Dan
>
>
>"Larry Hall" <cygwin-lh AT cygwin DOT com> wrote in message
>news:5 DOT 1 DOT 0 DOT 14 DOT 0 DOT 20030901223001 DOT 01f810c8 AT 127 DOT 0 DOT 0 DOT 1...
>> ssh-host-config creates /etc/ssh_host_key*.
>>
>>  From your cygcheck output:
>>
>>   653k 2003/07/22 C:\Program Files\mysql\bin\cygwinb19.dll - os=4.0
>img=1.0 sys=4.0
>>                   "cygwinb19.dll" v0.0 ts=1998/7/15 18:50
>>
>> This will is trouble waiting to happen.  Get rid of this DLL and update
>> mysql as required.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> At 10:25 PM 9/1/2003, Dan Adams you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >I am guessing this questioning might shift a little with my latest
>finding.
>> >Also, I have attached the cygcheck file thing that was requested at that
>> >website.
>> >
>> >My latest finding is:
>> >Could not load host key: /etc/ssh_host_key
>> >Could not load host key: /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key
>> >Could not load host key: /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key
>> >Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key
>> >Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
>> >
>> >I found this when looking in the sshd.log file that is in that directory.
>> >Relating to the permissions that that gentleman mentioned in his post on
>> >this list, those directories (this may not be good though) have the
>> >permissions for the system account. Is there anything that speaks about
>how
>> >to create these keys?
>> >
>> >Dan
>> >
>> >"Larry Hall" <cygwin-lh AT cygwin DOT com> wrote in message
>> >news:5 DOT 1 DOT 0 DOT 14 DOT 0 DOT 20030901214533 DOT 01f6a988 AT 127 DOT 0 DOT 0 DOT 1...
>> >> OK, I'm not sure my efforts are paying off here.  I'd recommend again
>that
>> >> you visit <http://cygwin.com/problems.html>.  It's hard to figure
>things
>> >> without a basis of information.  However, you'll probably find looking
>> >> in the email archives helpful.  For instance, I found this with a
>simple
>> >> search:
>> >>
>> >> <http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-02/msg00522.html>
>> >>
>> >> Seems to describe your situation to a tee, complete with solution.
>Just
>> >> one more reason not to use tech.erdelynet.com.  Seems your problem is a
>> >> common one when following the directions at this site.
>> >>
>> >> If this doesn't solve your problem, I suggest uninstalling ssh and
>> >> reinstalling.  Then, stay away from tech.erdelynet.com and just set
>> >> things up as the Cygwin doc suggests.  Otherwise, bug
>tech.erdelynet.com
>> >> about it if you insist on using their advice.
>> >>
>> >> Larry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 09:40 PM 9/1/2003, Dan Adams you wrote:
>> >> >The error it gives me when I try to start the service, after using the
>> >> >ssh-host-config command to make the service, and using the
>cygrunsrv -S
>> >sshd
>> >> >command is:
>> >> >cygrunsrv: Error starting a service: QueryServiceStatus:  Win32 error
>> >1062:
>> >> >The service has not been started.
>> >> >I am not sure if this will help at all, but I figured it might.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >-- 
>> >> >Dan Adams - dan AT infochi DOT com
>> >> >http://www.infochi.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Dan Adams" <dan AT infochi DOT com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:bj0ruq$thn$1 AT sea DOT gmane DOT org...
>> >> >> You mentioned that it is not reaching the server through ssh, is
>there
>> >any
>> >> >> way I can find out where the problem occurs at? I am using a command
>> >line
>> >> >of
>> >> >> :
>> >> >>     ssh -p 422 localhost
>> >> >> to do this, I am not sure where in the networking the problem might
>lie
>> >> >at,
>> >> >> is there any way that I can find out, or assist you in finding out?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The reason I was trying it with inetd, partly because it mentioned
>it
>> >on
>> >> >the
>> >> >> website of yours, is because I have it working correctly for a
>couple
>> >of
>> >> >> other services that are part of cygwin.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> One discrepancy I found between the website and the ssh-host-config
>> >file
>> >> >> that was installed on my machine is
>> >> >> file:
>> >> >>     chown system.system /var/empty
>> >> >> website
>> >> >>     chown system:system /var/empty
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How should this be? If you notice the website has a colon on that
>line,
>> >> >the
>> >> >> file has a period on that line.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The website I am referring to is:
>> >> >http://tech.erdelynet.com/cygwin-sshd.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- 
>> >> >> Dan Adams - dan AT infochi DOT com
>> >> >> http://www.infochi.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Larry Hall" <cygwin-lh AT cygwin DOT com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:5 DOT 1 DOT 0 DOT 14 DOT 0 DOT 20030901200938 DOT 01f7e0c0 AT 127 DOT 0 DOT 0 DOT 1...
>> >> >> > You're not reaching the server.  The read of the basic version
>> >> >> identification
>> >> >> > is failing.  If the client and the server can't understand what
>> >version
>> >> >of
>> >> >> > ssh is running on either end, they don't talk.  So you're not
>> >reaching
>> >> >the
>> >> >> > server through ssh.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sorry I don't know much about setting up ssh under inetd.  Is
>there a
>> >> >> reason
>> >> >> > not to set it up as the documentation suggests?  I can vouch for
>> >things
>> >> >> > working that way.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Larry
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > At 06:38 PM 9/1/2003, Dan Adams you wrote:
>> >> >> > >Thanks for the comment about cygrunsrv and the method of removing
>> >> >service
>> >> >> > >from win2k That worked well
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >Since I have inetd working well. I have a telnet server and also
>a
>> >FTP
>> >> >> > >server, but neither is available outside of my firewall. I
>thought
>> >that
>> >> >I
>> >> >> > >would try and see if I could use the sshd server that I just
>setup
>> >via
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > >inetd thing. When I did this, I got an error message of:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >What would this mean? This is the only error message that I have
>> >been
>> >> >> > >getting from the ssh deamon when I try and connect, and even
>before
>> >I
>> >> >ran
>> >> >> > >that setup script.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >Dan Adams - dan AT infochi DOT com
>> >> >> > >http://www.infochi.com
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >"Larry Hall" <cygwin-lh AT cygwin DOT com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > >news:5 DOT 1 DOT 0 DOT 14 DOT 0 DOT 20030901180444 DOT 01f69c90 AT 127 DOT 0 DOT 0 DOT 1...
>> >> >> > >> OK, visit <http://cygwin.com/problems.html> and provide the
>> >requested
>> >> >> > >info.
>> >> >> > >> Also, send along (attached too) your /etc/passwd and /etc/group
>> >> >files.
>> >> >> > >The
>> >> >> > >> actual transcript of your attempt to run chown would be helpful
>> >too.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> cygrunsrv -E <service name> followed by cygrunsrv -R <service
>> >name>
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> > >> stop and remove a service.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Larry
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> At 06:04 PM 9/1/2003, Dan Adams you wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >I tried the directions at the site, and when it did the chown
>> >> >> > >system.system
>> >> >> > >> >/var/empty command. It errors out, saying that the user is
>> >unknown.
>> >> >It
>> >> >> > >seems
>> >> >> > >> >to not want to start the service after that point. Any more
>> >> >> suggestions.
>> >> >> > >> >Also does anyone know how to remove a service from the listong
>in
>> >> >> Win2k
>> >> >> > >once
>> >> >> > >> >it is no longer desired. I am hoping to change from telnet/ftp
>to
>> >> >ssh
>> >> >> > >access
>> >> >> > >> >which means I would be able to get rid of the service of inetd
>> >that
>> >> >is
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> > >my
>> >> >> > >> >win2k control panel thing.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >Dan Adams - dan AT infochi DOT com
>> >> >> > >> >http://www.infochi.com
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >"Larry Hall" <cygwin-lh AT cygwin DOT com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > >> >news:5 DOT 1 DOT 0 DOT 14 DOT 0 DOT 20030901172200 DOT 01f49928 AT 127 DOT 0 DOT 0 DOT 1...
>> >> >> > >> >> At 05:28 PM 9/1/2003, Krzysztof Duleba you wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >> >Dan Adams" wrote
>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >> >> > >> >> >> Does anyone know if there is either a script that will
>> >automate
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > >> >> >process
>> >> >> > >> >> >> of setting up an ssh server? Or is there a tutorial setup
>> >page?
>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >> >> > >> >> >http://tech.erdelynet.com/cygwin-sshd.html
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >> And please follow-up with any questions generated from
>> >following
>> >> >the
>> >> >> > >> >> directions at this site with tech.erdelynet.com.  The
>supported
>> >> >> > >> >information
>> >> >> > >> >> for setting up Cygwin's OpenSSH distribution is
>> >> >> > >> >> /usr/doc/Cygwin/openssh-*.README.  It's the only source of
>> >> >> information
>> >> >> > >> >this
>> >> >> > >> >> list will entertain questions about.
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >> Larry Hall                              http://www.rfk.com
>> >> >> > >> >> RFK Partners, Inc.                      (508) 893-9779 - RFK
>> >> >Office
>> >> >> > >> >> 838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9889 - FAX
>> >> >> > >> >> Holliston, MA 01746
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
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