Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:33:17 -0400 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Updated: vim-6.2-1 Message-ID: <20030605203317.GJ7542@ny-kenton2a-710.buf.adelphia.net> Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20030601193755 DOT GD875 AT cygbert DOT vinschen DOT de> <000e01c32afb$fc420990$ef00a8c0 AT spiderman> <20030605094221 DOT GC27724 AT cygbert DOT vinschen DOT de> <3EDF3B10 DOT 3030706 AT mscha DOT org> <20030605131525 DOT GO875 AT cygbert DOT vinschen DOT de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030605131525.GO875@cygbert.vinschen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: somian AT adelphia DOT net (Soren Andersen) Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 03:15:25PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 02:44:00PM +0200, Michael Schaap wrote: > > The problem is: what GUI? > > Exactly. {...} > Not me ;-) I have no idea what gvim is actually good for. > The non-GUI version runs very nicely inside of xterm or rxvt, > so what? <-- just a rethorical question Ah, this gives me an opportunity to say how great it is that Vim is packaged for Cygwin, thanks Corinna. Believe it or not I ran cygwin all these years without its native Vim installed until the other day, when I got around to updating my rather long-neglected (like:5 months) cygwin installation on Win9x. On impulse I selected "Vim" and boy was I happy when I could just fire it up for some quick rcfile editing work and so forth. Now as to the rhetorical question: "what is GVim actually good for?" With a tool as fundamentally important to programmer/admins as the text editor, of course there are reasons to want one thing over another thing. One thing that is great about GVim is its capability to act as a "server" which can receive remote commands. This is surprisingly useful and allows for a lot of creative computing once one begins to explore it. Another thing important to some of us is that the display capabilities of the GUI version (GVim) of course excel far beyond the limitations imposed by the console. Aside from different languages (human), fonts and charsets and kbd mappings being possible, there is the superb GVim syntax-hilighting capabilities which I am always showing off in source code posted on my website (http://home.att.net/~perlspinr/browse_site.html). Even if the syntax hilighting (or degree thereof) seems like mostly a toy to a given person, to the next one it can be very significant. All-in-all I think both Vim and GVim have their place. I use Vim (in the terminal) about 75% of the time now, because much of my work is currently little systems-admining type of tasks and I can get the needed edits done quickest that way. For larger jobs where I might be working on the same file(s) for hours ... days ... (argh) weeks at a time, I much prefer to be using GVim where the fonts are better and much more convenience is available. -- See my OpenPGP key at https://savannah.gnu.org/people/viewgpg.php?user_id=6050 GnuPG public key fingerprint | "Only when efforts to reform society have as BD26 A5D8 D781 C96B 9936 | their point of departure the reformation of 310F 0573 A3D9 4E24 4EA6 | the inner life -- human revolution -- will they lead us with certainty to a world of lasting peace and true human security." -- Daisaku Ikeda -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/