Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 13:38:11 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: SPARSE files considered harmful - please revert Message-ID: <20030524173811.GA5141@redhat.com> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <16072 DOT 6666 DOT 10124 DOT 338022 AT gargle DOT gargle DOT HOWL> <00f301c31e12$c29efdb0$6400a8c0 AT FoxtrotTech0001> <00be01c31e15$944d0d50$78d96f83 AT pomello> <005601c31e26$77671260$6400a8c0 AT FoxtrotTech0001> <20030519175913 DOT GA24066 AT redhat DOT com> <008001c31e5e$39c0c680$6400a8c0 AT FoxtrotTech0001> <20030520024151 DOT GA1812 AT redhat DOT com> <3ECF2615 DOT 4080108 AT lapo DOT it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3ECF2615.4080108@lapo.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:58:13AM +0200, Lapo Luchini wrote: >Rolf Campbell wrote: > >>>3) What no one seems to be mentioning is that we are trying to emulate >>>UNIX behavior here. If the above is an issue for Windows then it could >>>also be an issue for UNIX. >> >>And it is. > >e.g. from FreeBSD 4.8's "man mmap": > > WARNING! Extending a file with ftruncate(2), thus cre- > ating a big hole, and then filling the hole by modify- > ing a shared mmap() can lead to severe file fragmenta- > tion. In order to avoid such fragmentation you should > always pre-allocate the file's backing store by > write()ing zero's into the newly extended area prior to > modifying the area via your mmap(). The fragmentation > problem is especially sensitive to MAP_NOSYNC pages, > because pages may be flushed to disk in a totally ran- > dom order. And so, my point is proved. Thanks. The feature stays. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/