Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:23:28 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Setup.exe sugestion/annoyance Message-ID: <20030522192328.GE4621@redhat.com> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <3ECC2C39 DOT 8000707 AT rfk DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3ECC2C39.8000707@rfk.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 09:47:37PM -0400, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.) wrote: >Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >>On Wed, 21 May 2003, Steve Fairbairn wrote: >> >> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf-rcm AT cygwin DOT com] >>>>Sent: 21 May 2003 15:33 >>>>To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com >>>>Subject: Re: Setup.exe sugestion/annoyance >>>> >>>>Primer on how not to get free software problems fixed: >>>> >>>>1) Download free software. >>>> >>>>2) Notice that the free software doesn't work exactly the way you want. >>>> >>>>3) Assume that the reason the free software doesn't work the way you >>>> want it to is because someone is missing something very obvious. >>>> Do no research to prove that theory. Assume that you are the >>>> very first person to notice the problem and decide to scold >>>> the free software developers. >>>> >>>>4) Send offended email. >>>> >>>>5) Receive email from developer telling you why things work the way >>>> they do. >>>> >>>>5) Respond in insulting fashion to the developer who volunteers time to >>>> work on free software. >>>> >>>>6) Speculate, while doing no research, that the bug in the free software >>>> program is probably fixable by using a proprietary software product >>>> available for purchase for many $$$. >>>> >>>>6) Suggest that bug in free software was purposely introduced. >>>> >>>>7) Wait for problem to be fixed, basking in the warm knowledge that >>>>you've >>>> done everything possible to help the volunteer developers of the free >>>> software. >>> >>>Why isn't this is the FAQ? I've found usability bug in the FAQ that'd >>>only >>>take the FAQ maintainer seconds to change, by loading it up in Microsoft >>>Word XP, copy and pasting this into it, making it produce new HTML, and >>>saving. >>> >>>What a crime against humanity this is. >>> >>>Steve Fairbairn. >> >> >>Ah, yes, perhaps we should have an "Answers For Dummies" section of the >>FAQ (external, I bet) that repeats all the answers to dummy questions and >>statements, like CGF's answer above, and the sample question/statement >>kindly supplied by Steve. We might have to distribute it compressed, >>though, as it's likely to fill up with junk pretty quickly. In fact, we >>should probably have a paid subscription to it. ;-) > >How about a ticker line at the top and bottom of the Cygwin home page >that continuously scrolls a series of questions and answers ad nauseam? >Or maybe we need a Flash pane that would pummel folks with frenetic, >cascading questions and answers in multi-colored text in varying fonts >and point sizes? That should be an attention grabber, no? I'm sure it >will distract folks actually trying to *read* the web page but there >can't be more than 2 or 3 of those so it wouldn't be a big deal, right? > >Oh and I don't think there should be more than 4 questions that >comprise this barrage. I know it seems like a small number but if you >review the archives, I think you'll find that this will actually fill >the need quite well. Of course, if that's overwhelming for some, we >can have a "premium" service that trims out the fat for a fee. > >Wha'd ya think? I think this will definitely enhance the end user experience. There's nothing users like more than flashy, scrolly things. I'll go you one better, though. I think that the cygwin DLL should be enhanced to provide similar functionality by default. It could open dialog boxes with a "Did you know?" type question every time it was invoked. This functionality would, of course, be under the control of the CYGWIN environment variable setting "noreceivehelpful_hints" if someone wanted to turn it off. Here's the first hint: Did you know? receive is not spelled recieve? cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/