Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Sensitivity: Subject: Re: Setup.exe sugestion/annoyance To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: From: Brian DOT Kelly AT Empireblue DOT com Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 06:04:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 12D27F65176182-01-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think there should be added "advertising support" for "p" enhancers, questionable financial loan packages, and "Mom's gone bad" to setup.exe. The setup.exe should NOT and I stress SHOULD NOT be changed since it has brilliantly succeeded in offending a non-contributor. I say go a step further and flood their machine with so many pop-ups that they'll be forced to re-boot. Oh - but I don't have the expertise to do that - so I DEMAND that Chris, Corrina, Larry, Igor and others who ARE regular contributors, stop bathing, walking the dog, or putting cream in your coffee, and get this done ASAP!!! Brian Kelly (an otherwise VERY grateful non-contributor [ so far at least ]). "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.)" @cygwin.com on 05/21/2003 09:47:37 PM Please respond to lhall AT rfk DOT com Sent by: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com cc: "Steve Fairbairn" (bcc: Brian Kelly/WTC1/Empire) Subject: Re: Setup.exe sugestion/annoyance Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2003, Steve Fairbairn wrote: > > >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf-rcm AT cygwin DOT com] >>>Sent: 21 May 2003 15:33 >>>To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com >>>Subject: Re: Setup.exe sugestion/annoyance >>> >>>Primer on how not to get free software problems fixed: >>> >>>1) Download free software. >>> >>>2) Notice that the free software doesn't work exactly the way you want. >>> >>>3) Assume that the reason the free software doesn't work the way you >>> want it to is because someone is missing something very obvious. >>> Do no research to prove that theory. Assume that you are the >>> very first person to notice the problem and decide to scold >>> the free software developers. >>> >>>4) Send offended email. >>> >>>5) Receive email from developer telling you why things work the way >>> they do. >>> >>>5) Respond in insulting fashion to the developer who volunteers time to >>> work on free software. >>> >>>6) Speculate, while doing no research, that the bug in the free software >>> program is probably fixable by using a proprietary software product >>> available for purchase for many $$$. >>> >>>6) Suggest that bug in free software was purposely introduced. >>> >>>7) Wait for problem to be fixed, basking in the warm knowledge that you've >>> done everything possible to help the volunteer developers of the free >>> software. >> >>Why isn't this is the FAQ? I've found usability bug in the FAQ that'd only >>take the FAQ maintainer seconds to change, by loading it up in Microsoft >>Word XP, copy and pasting this into it, making it produce new HTML, and >>saving. >> >>What a crime against humanity this is. >> >>Steve Fairbairn. > > > Ah, yes, perhaps we should have an "Answers For Dummies" section of the > FAQ (external, I bet) that repeats all the answers to dummy questions and > statements, like CGF's answer above, and the sample question/statement > kindly supplied by Steve. We might have to distribute it compressed, > though, as it's likely to fill up with junk pretty quickly. In fact, we > should probably have a paid subscription to it. ;-) > Igor How about a ticker line at the top and bottom of the Cygwin home page that continuously scrolls a series of questions and answers ad nauseam? Or maybe we need a Flash pane that would pummel folks with frenetic, cascading questions and answers in multi-colored text in varying fonts and point sizes? That should be an attention grabber, no? I'm sure it will distract folks actually trying to *read* the web page but there can't be more than 2 or 3 of those so it wouldn't be a big deal, right? Oh and I don't think there should be more than 4 questions that comprise this barrage. I know it seems like a small number but if you review the archives, I think you'll find that this will actually fill the need quite well. Of course, if that's overwhelming for some, we can have a "premium" service that trims out the fat for a fee. Wha'd ya think? -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. 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