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Subject: RE: latest update on Re: [EXTREMELY OFF-TOPIC] The sad state of cgf's existing new laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:29:31 -0400
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From: "Reid Thompson" <Reid DOT Thompson AT ateb DOT com>
To: <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
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I do believe the FBI investigates (or attempts to) these scams and
prosecutes them whenever they can catch the culprit.  That said, I think
there's lots of culprits & not so lots of agents working on them..

I did read a couple of weeks ago where they DID arrest a couple that was
scamming on ebay like this and pressed charges.


reid


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf AT redhat DOT com] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:41 PM
> To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
> Subject: latest update on Re: [EXTREMELY OFF-TOPIC] The sad 
> state of cgf's existing new laptop
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 12:31:17AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 03:48:55PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >>On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 01:41:14PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >>> >On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Steve Fairbairn wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> > From: Charles Werner [mailto:cw AT gamma-rs DOT ch]
> >>> >> > Sent: 08 April 2003 07:41
> >>> >> > To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
> >>> >> > Subject: [EXTREMELY OFF-TOPIC] The sad state of 
> cgf's existing 
> >>> >> > new laptop
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > What email address do I use for cgf's paypal 
> account? Let's get 
> >>> >> > this man a computer!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Good call, someone tell me how to give money with paypal or 
> >>> >> whatever, and I'll throw $10 dollars cgf's way.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Make it list mail rather than personal, in case anyone 
> else wants 
> >>> >> to as well. Steve.
> >>> >
> >>> >Well, I don't quite know how to use PayPal, but it seems 
> to accept 
> >>> >cgf's e-mail at RedHat as registered.  If this is 
> confirmed, I'll 
> >>> >post a link.
> >>>
> >>> <no-shame-mode>That's me.</no-shame-mode>
> >>>
> >>> >Chris, why postpone the inevitable?  Please let the list 
> know which 
> >>> >address to use for donations, and let us help. ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Someone has already donated something there.  I really 
> can't believe 
> >>> this and other expressions of sympathy I've received.  
> It's amazing 
> >>> how often a bad experience can offer new positive perspectives on 
> >>> life.
> >>>
> >>> *sniff*  Something in my eye...
> >>> cgf
> >>
> >>I've realized a while ago that the one deserving person 
> Chris cannot 
> >>really give a gold star to is himself, but this is lots 
> better than a 
> >>gold star... :-D
> >>
> >>Ok, everyone, if you want to contribute a token of your 
> appreciation 
> >>to the Ruler, Czar, and Monarch (RCM) of Cygwin, the person who 
> >>oversees the Cygwin project, provides us with useful packages like 
> >>"cygwin", "sh-utils", "man/groff/less", "gcc/binutils/gdb/bison", 
> >>"texinfo", and many more, handles our whining and (oh, horror) GPL 
> >>questions on a regular basis, and still finds the time to 
> hack on the 
> >>Cygwin DLL, the one and only CGF, you may use the following link: 
> >><https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=
> cgf%40redh
> >>at.com>
> >
> >Btw, paypal just sent me email because someone forwarded my 
> message to 
> >them.  They told me to do a bunch of things that I'd already 
> done and 
> >made some observations which seemed to imply that they 
> actually hadn't 
> >read the email that had been forwarded to them.  I took the 
> opportunity 
> >to ask them if I could get the personal information on the 
> scumbag for 
> >a law enforcement agency.  Lets see if they ignore this request, too.
> >
> >Thanks, whoever you were, for getting them to contact me.  And, many 
> >many many many many thanks to the incredible outpouring of 
> generosity 
> >from the list.  I couldn't believe it when I woke up today and found 
> >more donations from the list.  I thought sure that this would be all 
> >finished by yesterday.
> >
> >I've used your generosity as an object lesson to my kids that there 
> >really are good people in the world.  I mentioned it to my 
> parents too 
> >but after a half hour discussion about cygwin, free software, why 
> >cygwin isn't really a Red Hat enterprise, etc., I don't 
> think they got 
> >it.
> >
> >The kids got it, though.  It's almost worth the pain of 
> financial loss 
> >to be able to point at the fact that the world isn't a completely 
> >uncaring place.  I'm sure they think that Dad is a little 
> embarrassing 
> >for getting choked up when he tells the story of the kind 
> folks in the 
> >cygwin mailing list, but what the heck...
> >
> >I need to give myself some off-topic coal for this thread 
> but I really 
> >do appreciate the commiseration I've received.  It has been a really 
> >tough couple of weeks for me thanks to this and another even more 
> >serious issue and the response of people here has really helped.
> >
> >Ok.  Enough of my slobbering.  Get back to work.
> >
> >You over there!  cygwin-apps isn't a bug reporting mailing list! Are 
> >you crazy?
> >
> >And you!  Yes, you with the cron problem!  We need cygcheck 
> output! As 
> >an attachment, dammit!
> >
> >What?  You aren't shipping sources with your binaries?  Are 
> you daft, 
> >man?  Have you never heard of the GPL?  I quiver with 
> outrage at your 
> >impertinence!
> >
> >That's better.
> 
> For those keeping score on this saga, here is the latest: A 
> week or so ago the PayPal person that someone here put me in 
> touch with gave me the contact info from PayPal.  The phone 
> number given was for an abortion clinic in Sayreville, NJ.  Whoopee.
> 
> Enough time has now passed that I can finally file a formal 
> claim with eBay.  Actually, I probably could have done that a 
> week or so ago.  So, I've done that.  Now in another month I 
> can maybe get my $175 of insurance.  Whee.
> 
> A couple of people have suggested that I could contact the 
> FBI about this.  Can anyone confirm or deny this fact?  Does 
> anyone here know precisely the right path to follow here?  
> Would contacting the Sayreville police department help?  I'm 
> a little discouraged and gun shy about this ordeal but I 
> really have to steel myself to keep moving forward and doing 
> the right thing.  Even if I can't recover my money, it would 
> be satisfying to see the guy fined or in jail, or whatever 
> happens to scum like this.
> 
> And, again, thank you to all whose charity I have received.  
> As I said, now when I tell the story of my stupidity to 
> people, I have an amazing twist to the whole scenario.  To 
> me, it brings a whole new meaning to term "free software community".
> 
> As I have intimated this is a particularly bad time for me 
> right now. This incident came in the middle of a number of 
> crises.  As seems to be so often the case, this problem, 
> which would have been enough of an annoyance was just one of 
> many and, in some ways, it was the least of my worries.  
> Still, the thought of being scammed in this way does hit me 
> on a daily basis.
> 
> Anyway, enough this off-topic self-pity.  Thanks again, and 
> again, I'm asking for advice on how to proceed.  A few people 
> have sent me email about near misses that they've experienced 
> on eBay.  I'm wondering how common my story is and if there 
> is actually a number of people in a similar boat.  I'm 
> wondering if this is a Slashdot-worthy story...
> 
> cgf
> 
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