Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Andrew DeFaria Subject: Re: setup.exe is too small Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:04:01 -0800 Lines: 67 Message-ID: <3E690941.5030800@Salira.com> References: <20030306124038 DOT 46579 DOT qmail AT web40210 DOT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <3E67CD96 DOT 2060605 AT Salira DOT com> <00f701c2e431$db461990$78d96f83 AT pomello> <20030306225245 DOT GA13157 AT redhat DOT com> <3E67D389 DOT 9030803 AT Salira DOT com> <1047025479 DOT 1076 DOT 20 DOT camel AT localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------070500040905070704010707" X-Complaints-To: usenet AT main DOT gmane DOT org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ru, zh --------------070500040905070704010707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Collins wrote: >> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 10:02, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >> > >>>> Christopher Faylor wrote >>>> >> >>>>>> And, different agendas as well. No one in free software has to work >>>>>> on things that they don't want to work on. >>>>>> >>>>>> And, the theory that "You know how to do it. You're doing all this >>>>>> other stuff, why don't you do this too?" doesn't really sound right >>>>>> to me. >> >>>> >>>> Chris do not view this as a justification for a "consumer" to demand >>>> that a "producer" work for him. Rather I was trying to point out why >>>> a "consumer" or a "semi-hacker" for that matter, might be reluctanct >>>> to dive into a dev/patch project that they might view "over there head". > >> >> If they aren't willing to dive in, The word was reluctant not unwilling. >> then they still have options other than asking for charity... >> >> *) Contribute something for the feature. I.e. 'I'll write up a web >> page detailing how to use various aspects of setup, IF you will make >> the chooser resizable for me'. OK - I'll write up a web page detailing how to use various aspects of setup, IF you will make the chooser resizable for me. >> *) Contract someone else to implement the feature for them. "I'll put >> $20 into a pool for the programmer that completes the feature". I don't have a spare $20 to put into a pool but I'll put in my vote. Is that good enough? :-) >>>> IOW I don't think that just because it's Open Source and you *can* >>>> fix it yourself, that a flippant "Fix it yourself!" response is >>>> warranted. > >> >> Conversely, neither is "Fix it for me!". Isn't one of the tenents of Open Source that the developer typically prides themselves on their code and therefore is quicker to fix bugs and address problems in their products? You see to me this is one of the falacys of the Open Source movement - that the producers will care enough and have enough time to address such problems. As we can see this is not always the case. From the view point of the consumer Open Source is often not workable. --------------070500040905070704010707--