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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:49:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu>
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To: "Peter A. Castro" <doctor AT fruitbat DOT org>
cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject: Re: Advocacy
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Peter A. Castro wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:42:16AM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote:
> > >> At my place of work, access to free e-mail websites is blocked, so the only
> > >> e-mail I can send is via my official account. This adds the disclaimer you
> > >> see at the bottom. I can't prevent that. You can ignore it very easily, and
> > >> delete this message if the disclaimer offends you. No, I don't mention you
> > >> by name but yes, you are an intended recipient of the message.
> > >
> > >I feel that you should review their responses to you, determine if they
> > >are truely striking out at you because of your companies policies, and
> > >respond back.  Yes, email them back!  Make them put their money where
> > >their mouths are and justify their complaints.  Anyone who really
> > >participates on this list will tell you that they back up every word with
> > >something stronger than just fist waving.  If they can't or won't, then
> > >just ignore them.
> >
> > As someone who publicly commented on this ludicrous disclaimer, let me just
> > note that I fully understand that people who post to the list have no
>
> Ah ha!  Soooo, it was you! You, CGF, who caused Sheridan such strife! :)
>
> > control over the disclaimers.  However, if you take them at face value
> > you could easily come to the conclusion that the sender could be in violation
> > of company policy or, worse, could be assuming that you are implicitly
> > accepting their policies.
>
> His companies disclaimer was actually quite sparse, compared with some of
> the people who post from the really big companies, or from some of the
> government facilities (at least, those who are *allowed* to post :).  I
> am curious, though.  Was it just the general sense of the disclaimer that
> caused you to comment, or was there something in particular in it that
> tweeked you?
>
> > I am sorry for suggesting that people should contact this company to
> > talk about the disclaimer.  I thought that maybe if enough people contacted
> > the proper authorities they might be able to help institute a change.
> > I wasn't suggesting that anyone contact the original sender to complain
> > since it is clear that they have no power over this.
>
> Let that be a lesson to you.  Only use your powers for good, not evil!
>
> > I've previously floated the idea of filtering out these disclaimers on
> > the overseers AT sources DOT redhat DOT com mailing list and no one thought
> > it was a very good idea.  So my threat to do so was just an idle one.
>
> (mumble...something about "bark" and "bite"...mumble...:)
>
> Is this OT now?
>
> > cgf

Peter,

I believe the complaints were mostly about the *size* of the disclaimer,
not about its content.  The content is reasonably standard and pretty
redundant, IMO.  Which is why I proposed a way for people to allow
filtering it out (by including, say, an "--IGNORE-LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW--"
line in their signature).
	Igor
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