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From: Thorsten Kampe <thorsten AT thorstenkampe DOT de>
Subject: Re: Minimum Install for Executable Distrubution
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:28:55 +0100
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* Christopher Faylor (03-02-26 15:59 +0100)
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 12:48:39PM +0100, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>>* Christopher Faylor (03-02-26 04:35 +0100)
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 04:11:36AM +0100, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>>>> * Max Bowsher (03-02-25 20:13 +0100)
>>>>> Thorsten Kampe wrote:
>>>>>> I checked it myself and I was wrong: the default install is exactly the
>>>>>> base install (plus dependencies) and this is exactly the minimum
>>>>>> install.
>>>>>
>>>>> For certain definitions of minimum.
>>>>
>>>> Well, yes.  I believe the Cygwin people had strong reasons to put
>>>> something in the base (default) install, so "If you uncheck something
>>>> from the base packages, something certainly will fail".
>>> 
>>> Let me say it again:  You don't need to install everything in the base.
>>> 
>>>> But I'm curious (and this question is often asked). Do you think 
>>>> something from the base install could be omitted /and/ having a 
>>>> working Cygwin install?
>>> 
>>> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2003-02/msg01982.html
>>> 
>>> OF COURSE you don't have to install everything.  You just have to
>>> install what you need.  A cygwin program just absolutely needs
>>> the DLL everything other than that is optional.  Install as much
>>> or as little as you want.
>>
>> So you're telling me that
>>
>> a) there is no particular reason why the Cygwin creators made a "Base 
>> Category" (different to all other categories (Editors, Shells))
>>
>> b) there is no particular reason why the Cygwin creators put for 
>> example gawk in the "Base Category" but not vim?
>>
>> Your explanation was: "you just have to install what you need" and 
>> "install as much or as little as you want".
>>
>> Is it reasonable to assume that more people would want gawk than vim? 
>> No, and even if, why not let them select "gawk" on their own?!
>>
>> Is it reasonable to assume that more people would /need/ to have gawk 
>> installed than vim? Yes, and this is the reason why gawk is in the 
>> default install and vim isn't.
> 
> I'm not interested in getting into a "why is XYZ in the base category"
> discussion [...].

Me neither.

> That's not, AFAICT, what this discussion is about.

You're right. I should have changed the subject or opened a new 
thread.

> [...] The Base category is supposed to provide an arbitrary amount of
> functionality for a Cygwin installation. It is a best guess at what is
> required.

Thanks for pointing this out. It was that reason I was curious about.

Thorsten
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