Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Thorsten Kampe Subject: Re: DOS <-> Bash interaction... Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 01:17:10 +0100 Lines: 98 Message-ID: <1bi4ovpccw5ey.dlg@thorstenkampe.de> References: <269620-22003122821248181 AT M2W089 DOT mail2web DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet AT main DOT gmane DOT org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.3.1 * Soren A (03-01-28 23:31 +0100) > "lhall=AU7YxEODS6309vganRf5J0EOCMrvLtNR AT public DOT gmane DOT org" > wrote around 28 Jan 2003 > news:269620-22003122821248181=WTZTdqeFw5SZ8YYJsr7BYUEOCMrvLtNR AT public DOT gmane DOT org: Wow, what an attribution novel^Wline... >> This issue isn't Cygwin specific, since setting of the SHELL >> environament variable is handled by the shell itself. > >> As such, discussion of this is really off-topic for this list. > > Cygwin bash is a *port* of GNU bash to _Cygwin_. As I have > previously written, this sort of discussion is IMNSHO *totally* > ON-topic for Cygwin. There are many potential issues here that > wouldn't come into play for bash users on a generic Unix platform. No one doubts that these issues are on-topic /if they are specific to the Cygwin port/. > Furthermore, use of bash is assumed for most new users of Cygwin, > some of whom will also be using a Unix-ish shell for the very first > or nearly the very first time as part of their experiential > introduction to Cygwin. If the intent is to exclude such users from > Cygwin-usership,[...] then this is a very effective way of doing > that. So what. If you don't know how to use bash and are unable to help yourself at the right places - don't use it. ,--- * http://cygwin.com/lists.html | This may seem like we're discouraging questions. Well, you are right. | We are discouraging repeat questions. The Cygwin mailing list is a | very high volume list. Every question you send there will potentially | be read by thousands of people. Many people will sigh and shake their | heads when they see the same old question asked for the hundredth | time. Is this how you want to introduce yourself to the Cygwin | community? We think not. `--- > "Don't offer any help with bash, reflexively condemn any raising of > such Q's as OT, tell all posters to RTFM rather than discuss the > finer points On-List" [...]. Those things found in a man page are not "finer points" - they're considered basic knowledge. That's what man-pages are for! If you want to discuss bash, subscribe to a bash mailing list. > It would take less time to answer such questions (thus getting them > into the Cygwin List archives) ...where they of course already are... > than the total time you've put into telling other people what to > discuss or not to discuss. I myself am not tired of stating my > disagreement with this POV and the reasons why. Your "disagreement" and "the reasons why" are irrelevant. If you haven't read and agreed to... ,--- * http://cygwin.com/lists.html | Finally, make sure when you send a message to a Cygwin list that it | actually has something to do with Cygwin. What do we mean by that? | Well, if you can't install the Cygwin C compiler, then that has | something to do with Cygwin. If you don't know C very well and need | some pointers on writing a program, that really has nothing to do with | Cygwin. If you are trying to run the Cygwin version of bash (the | standard UNIX shell) and it hangs, then that's probably a Cygwin | problem. If you can't figure out how to set up a command alias in | bash, that's not a Cygwin question. These Cygwin questions are | considered "on topic". The non-Cygwin questions are considered "off | topic". | | Why do we make this distinction? For two reasons: 1) as mentioned, the | email traffic is very high so, by keeping things "on topic" we can cut | down on some list traffic and 2) there are usually much better places | on the Internet where you can get definitive answers for your | off-topic-for-cygwin question. It doesn't make sense to ask | non-experts to teach you about C or bash. `--- ...you shouldn't have subscribed in the first place! >> I found a quick check of the bash man page and searching for SHELL >> shed allot of light on the subject however. You might want to check >> it out yourself. > > I think it owuld be a lot more interesting to discuss the manpage > here. "man bash" doesn't mention any Cygwin related, so this is off-topic. 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