Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm
List-Subscribe: <mailto:cygwin-subscribe AT cygwin DOT com>
List-Archive: <http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/>
List-Post: <mailto:cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
List-Help: <mailto:cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com>, <http://sources.redhat.com/ml/#faqs>
Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com
Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Message-ID: <20030113075922.A16536@CS.CMU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:59:22 -0500
From: Bhiksha Raj <bhiksha AT cs DOT cmu DOT edu>
To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject: Re: BSOD on cygwin
References: <Pine DOT GSO DOT 4 DOT 44 DOT 0301121038390 DOT 10883-100000 AT slinky DOT cs DOT nyu DOT edu> <Pine DOT GSO DOT 4 DOT 44 DOT 0301121024370 DOT 10883-100000 AT slinky DOT cs DOT nyu DOT edu> <Pine DOT GSO DOT 4 DOT 44 DOT 0301121038390 DOT 10883-100000 AT slinky DOT cs DOT nyu DOT edu> <20030112183440 DOT A13001 AT CS DOT CMU DOT EDU> <4 DOT 3 DOT 1 DOT 2 DOT 20030112192405 DOT 036bec98 AT pop DOT rcn DOT com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20030112192405.036bec98@pop.rcn.com>; from Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) on Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 07:35:44PM -0500

Im not sure what happened, but my problem went away.
I do not have VPN or an antivirus program running - I turned those off
due to some problems with other software earlier. No firewall software
either - I have an external DLink firewall.
For the record, here's what I did that seemed to fix things:
1. I reinstalled cygwin 1.3.8.1. "cygcheck" ran once after the reinstall, 
 but failed again on subsequent runs. The machine still crashed when I
 tried to "./configure" guile.
2. The configure script was dying at a "uniq". I tried running uniq on a
 file, from the command line. It crashed the window (not the machine), with
 a windows popup message about some dll. I didnt note it down (unfortuntely).
3. I restarted another cygwin window and reran uniq on the same file.
 This time uniq went through.
4. I reran configure (note that I havent *changed* anything after the earlier
 run, when the machine crashed). It went through cleanly.
5. I double checked. 'cygcheck' also returns proper results.

Since I did not actively modify anything, Im mystified why things went 
through after I ran uniq on the command line.

Thanks,
Bhiksha

On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 07:35:44PM -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
> Perhaps someone else running Win98 will be able to confirm or deny 
> the problems you're seeing.  I'm guessing that others will only be 
> able to 'deny'.  As mentioned, BSOD is an O/S issue/bug, which means
> it's at least difficult to resolve in application software and is
> certainly much better resolved in the O/S itself (or quite possibly 
> software drivers).  Certainly in the case that the problem is caused
> by drivers (and AV software uses these too), the problem software is
> not necessarily installed on a 'typical' Win 98 machine, which is why
> I said I expect others won't be able to confirm your results.  I'd 
> highly recommend following Igor's suggestions.  The fact that you 
> can't get cygcheck to run correctly for you again makes me highly
> suspicious that something on your system other than Cygwin is actually
> causing your problem.  In my opinion, you're more likely to find the
> source of your problem by looking outside of Cygwin.
> 
> 
> 
> Larry Hall                              lhall AT rfk DOT com
> RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
> 838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
> Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX
> 
> 
> At 06:34 PM 1/12/2003, Bhiksha Raj wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >First I must apologize for my multiple posts earlier.
> >I wasnt sure if the first one had gone through, since I never
> >got a copy myself. So I figured Id messed up and posted again.
> >
> >Anyway,
> >the problem (as I mentioned earlier) is that on my windows 98
> >machine, with the latest cygwin, I get a blue screen of death
> >when I try to run "configure --disable-shared" on guile-1.4.1.
> >(Im using 1.4.1 because Im tyring to compile TeXmacs).
> >
> >Ive since dug around a bit, crashed my machine a hunded times,
> >and collected logs. I found that the configure script dies
> >on line 4791, at a line that goes 
> >"if sort conftest.nm|uniq > conftest.ntM;then"
> >
> >I get an empty conftest.nmT and the machine dies.
> >I tried running the same command from command line. The first time
> >I ran it, my cygwin window froze (although my machine didnt die),
> >but thereafter Ive been able to run it from command line.
> >However, running the configure script kills the machine at the
> >uniq again.
> >
> >Im attaching the configure script, the config.log, and the 
> >conftest.nm files (the conftest.nmT file I get is empty).
> >I hope this is not bad practice, but I figure they would help
> >find the problem.
> >The tail of the config.log file should indicate where exactly
> >my machine dies (every time!).
> >Also, as per Igor Pechtchanski's suggestion, I ran a cygcheck -s -v -r and
> >am attaching the output.
> >
> >Curiously, cygcheck -s -v -r gave me output the first time I
> >ran it. Afterwards, running the command simply gives me no output
> >at all - it simply runs silently and comes back. Im not sure why
> >this is so - I was pretty sure it was supposed to repeat the
> >information everytime I ran it. I hope this doesnt indicate a
> >bug with my setup.
> >
> >Many thanks for any and all help in this issue.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bhiksha
> >bhiksha AT merl DOT com
> >
> >
> >On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 10:40:48AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Bhiksha Raj wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope this is not the wrong forum for this:
> > > > >
> > > > > Im trying to install TeXmacs on my win98+cygwin laptop.
> > > > > First I installed the binaries for guile from the cygwin setup
> > > > > (I have XFree and Tex and all associated libs already)
> > > > > downloaded TeXmacs sources, ran ./configure and then
> > > > > gave a "make".
> > > > > I got  the blue screen of death (BSD).
> > > > > After iterating through several BSDs, I hunted on the web
> > > > > and found a site that said that static linkages were a problem with
> > > > > the latest guile and that I must install guile 1.4.1. So I uninstalled
> > > > > guile,
> > > > > downloaded the sources for guile 1.4.1, untarred them and
> > > > > ran
> > > > > ./configure --disable-shared
> > > > >
> > > > > It runs through several checks, but never completes - insted it
> > > > > gives me at some point it simply gives me the blue screen of death.
> > > > > This time around Im not even getting past configure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Im not sure what to do now.
> > > > > Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Much thanks
> > > > > Bhiksha
> > > > > bhiksha AT merl DOT com
> > > >
> > > > Bhiksha,
> > > >
> > > > This is a forum for all problems with Cygwin, so your question fits in
> > > > nicely.  To answer it, Cygwin never *causes* a BSOD.  It may expose or
> > > > trigger a bug in Windows or some process running with system privileges
> > > > (antivirus programs have been blamed a lot), but Cygwin itself doesn't
> > > > have enough access to the low-level OS to be able to cause a BSOD.
> > > >
> > > > Try turning off your antivirus program(s) and see if it makes the BSOD go
> > > > away.  Another possibility is firewall or VPN software.  The output of
> > > > 'cygcheck -s -v -r' as a non-inline uncompressed text *attachment*
> > > > wouldn't hurt, either (as indicated in <http://cygwin.com/bugs/>).
> > > >         Igor
> > > > P.S. I'm sure you'll get more and better responses on Monday.
> > > 
> > > Whoops!  Fingers striving to be independent from the brain...  Make the
> > > above link <http://cygwin.com/bugs.html> (also at the bottom of every
> > > message).
> > >       Igor
> > > -- 
> > >                               http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
> > >       |\      _,,,---,,_              pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu
> > > ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_          igor AT watson DOT ibm DOT com
> > >      |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'         Igor Pechtchanski
> > >     '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL   a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!
> > > 
> > > Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk!
> > >   -- /usr/games/fortune
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
> > > Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
> > > Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
> > > FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/
> > > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
> >Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
> >Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
> >FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/ 
> 
> 
> #################################################################
> #################################################################
> #################################################################
> #####
> #####
> #####
> #################################################################
> #################################################################
> #################################################################
> 
> #################################################################
> #################################################################
> #################################################################
> #####
> #####
> #####
> #################################################################
> #################################################################
> #################################################################
> 
> --
> Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
> Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
> Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
> FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/
> 

--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/