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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 13:52:39 -0800
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From: Randall R Schulz <rrschulz AT cris DOT com>
Subject: RE: Cygwin causes 0x00000024 Stop Error (BLUE SCREEN)
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Robert,

I suppose you're right: I was too "enthusiastic" (does that qualify as a 
euphemism in this context?). Also, I must confess I didn't read the KB 
entry before my previous post.

However, if this is really the result of that known problem in Windows, why 
have we heard so little of it here? Have we gotten to the point where 
people are afraid to report bugs, or too ready to blame problems on 
anything _but_ Cygwin? I wouldn't have thought so. Maybe we've been too 
emphatic in hammering home the "Blue Screen == SEP" equation.

If KB 195857 really is the culprit here, then I suppose you could well make 
the case that opening a lot of system handles and then just abandoning them 
is not good programming practice and really should be resolved on its own 
merits.

I take it hardware configuration (available RAM and / or paging space) is 
one a parameter in the likelihood of triggering this problem.

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA


At 12:40 2002-11-24, you wrote:
>On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 08:27, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>
>
> > Likewise, it cannot be the locus of a fix for such a problem. While I
> > certainly cannot speak for others who read this list, I doubt anyone is
> > going to a) be able to help you much to solve this situation, since it is
> > surely idiosyncratic and specific to your system; b) be motivated to do so.
>
>Randall, I think this is a little to enthusiastic! While setup.exe is
>not the root cause of the problem, it may be triggering the fault - and
>because (assuming that kb 195857 is the cause (*))
>a) cygwin is for windows
>b) this fault is apparently endemic to windows
>c) MS haven't fixed it
>
>The onus is on us to have cygwin work around the fault. We've done that
>before, we'll do it again. Daniels email was informed, researched, and
>pleasant - so I'll certainly be assisting (but not admitting to a setup
>'bug' per se :}) and I suspect Max will too.
>
>Rob
>
>(*) The technet article doesn't list XP as suffering from the fault,
>which I read to mean that the fault is fixed in XP, and (inferring here)
>is a kernel issue which would change current published 2K and NT
>behaviour, thus will not be fixed on those kernels.


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