Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:35:47 +0100 From: raphael To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin) Message-ID: <20021001143546.GA276@raphael.oninet.pt> Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <200209301154 DOT g8UBssX27530 AT mailgate5 DOT cinetic DOT de> <5 DOT 0 DOT 0 DOT 25 DOT 0 DOT 20020930204821 DOT 00a443c0 AT mail DOT shemeshdirectory DOT co DOT il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20020930204821.00a443c0@mail.shemeshdirectory.co.il> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TOOS 1.3.12(0.54/3/2) 2002-07-06 02:16 i686 unknown --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 08:58:17PM +0200, Lisi wrote: >=20 > > > >Yes, your question made me wonder if it wouldn't be nice to have a=20 > >cygwin-unix-questions mailing list, but then it occurred to me that then= =20 > >we'd have endless and indignant discussions of whether something is cygw= in=20 > >or unix-specific. >=20 > That's the point of a cygwin-unix list, questions can be either about=20 > cygwin or unix and still be relevant. Right! =20 > Also, a newbie list geared to people not yet weaned off Windows would=20 > (hopefully!) not elicit unhelpful responses like "of course you're having= =20 > problems, you're still using Winblowz!" Yes, I know *nix is more stable,= =20 > reliable, and more powerful, that's why I'm learning! But it's just not= =20 > practical for many people to chuck everything they have and start over,= =20 > especially when sharing a computer with someone not very inclined to chan= ge. And more important, the choise between Windows and *nix disapears thanks to Cygwin. With Cygwin for the first time people can bennefit of the best of both worlds. I have never bee prepared to 'choose' and was always looking for something in between. That's why I regret the constant push of some diehards here towards *Nix. Is just arogance nothing more. At least it shows a complete unawareness of reality. You will never ever change a MS-Word user into a VIM or EMAC user. And why would you? >=20 > One additional advantage to a Cygwin-unix-newbie list is that since, as= =20 > Raphael pointed out, "Cygwin is no *nix but a posix implementation to win= "=20 > certain questions may not be answered the same way as they might on a Uni= x=20 > list. Right, whenever you go to a list of one of the packages the first thing you will here is 'it was not designed to run under windows=B4. And then come the specifics like I had in the cron discussion a short while ago. Would this have been solved on a cron mailinglist. Don't think so. > Anyway, until such a list is created, I'll just stick with Mark's=20 > suggestion of prefacing every subject header with a newbie alert, and=20 > hopefully keep peace on the list!! :) I second that and will start to do the same. Please be aware that I have the resources to start a list myself. I will not do this becouse I think it deserves a better chance through cygwin.com. --=20 Better dead than mellow. --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (Cygwin32) iD8DBQE9mbLCWEtPuWPcngsRAmBMAJ9u64AqWyzIxtZ8fk0v0Ap3yutyhQCg76Hz G+LxUo4gIcObtwSMIEN6738= =Glrd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5--