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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:00:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu>
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Subject: Re: Crontab problems
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Raphael wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 05:53:24PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> >
> > > --- Raphael <raphael AT oninet DOT pt> wrote:
> > > > Hi guys/girls~,
> > > >
> > > > I'm having a bit of a problem with my windows based editor. Using
> > > > it with
> > > > Pine or Mutt is not problem. Using it with Crontab -e gives a
> > > > sharing
> > > > violation error when I want to save the new file.
> > > >
> > > > Is this a crontab problem?
> > >
> > > Use vi.exe
> >
> > Most windows editors adopt a remove-and-recreate (or rename-and-recreate)
> > policy.  This basically means that they will try to remove or rename the
> > crontab-created file (which will fail, silently), and then create that
> > file over (which will fail since crontab has it open).  This is where your
> > sharing violation comes from.
>
> Ok, I can understand that explenation.
>
> > I've verified this with notepad and
> > editpad, but I'm sure most of the others will behave similarly.  Thus,
> > looks like using a cygwin-based editor is your only option, unless you can
> > find a windows one that writes the files in-place.  If this creates one
> > more convert for the vi camp, all the better. ;-)
>
> Don't think so, why should Cron not be able to act like Pine or Mutt. I
> guess the latter start opening the file in shared mode?

I don't know about mutt, but pine, IIRC, does not keep the file open while
it's being edited by an external editor.  It re-opens the file afterwards,
which is why it doesn't care whether it's the same file, or a newly
created one.
	Igor
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