Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:10:32 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Windows .NET Server RC1 and cygwin not working together?? Message-ID: <20020823131032.GA17033@redhat.com> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20020823023529 DOT GD13250 AT redhat DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 01:05:44AM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 06:38:14PM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote: >> >Ajay Juneja wrote: >> >>It appears that Windows .NET RC1 and Cygwin are not quite compatible. >> >>Cygwin just starts and quickly dies with no error message in this new >> >>version of windows. >> > >> >Windows isn't done until Cygwin won't run :-) >> >> That seems to be the case with Windows releases since W2K. >> >> cgf > >Don't put it past them for a *second*. Now I'm not your typical "M$ hater" that >thinks its "k3w1" to "dis" Microsoft at every opportunity; I've been to Hell >(i.e. Windows Kernel Mode) and (barely) back, and I can say without equivocation >that such freakshows have only two causes: > >1. Complete incompetence. >2. Intentional nefarious designs. > >We know #1 is not true about MS; when they want to, they can get things right >(or thereabouts). And we know that Unix-on-Windows is not percieved as >conducive to whatever MS's "Final Solution" plans are; if it were, Window's >"POSIX subsystem" would be more than a joke. QED, we are left with #2. I think it's more that cygwin tries to do things with the Windows API that are clearly undocumented and boundary conditions. For instance, there is no guarantee that fork() should work correctly given the magic (aka kludge) involved. So, it is within Microsoft's rights to change whatever they want in this regard and Cygwin just has to play catchup; assuming it's possible to do so. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/