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Subject: RE: bash and the delete key
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:11:25 -0700
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Please note that the Ctrl-Insert/Shift-Insert/Shift-Delete keystrokes
are legacy, supported for backwards compatibility.  The modern standard
is indeed Ctrl-C/V/X.

From "The Windows Interface Guidelines for Software Design" (covers
Windows 95 and NT! -- so you know it's not brand new :-)

	"The system still supports shortcut assignments available in
earlier versions of Microsoft Windows (Alt+Backspace, Shift+Insert,
Ctrl+Insert, Shift+Delete).  You should consider supporting them (though
not documenting them) to support the transition of users."

(This is a footnote in Appendix B, which documents the standard
shortcuts - Ctrl-C/V/X among them).

As long as folks don't actually make the transition, I suspect the OS
will continue to support them, but please, let's not encourage folks to
make the transition in the wrong direction :-)

stephan();



-----Original Message-----
From: Samuel [mailto:samuel AT socal DOT rr DOT com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:03 PM
To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject: Re: bash and the delete key


----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall R Schulz" <rrschulz AT cris DOT com>
To: <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: bash and the delete key
>
> Mapping the insert clipboard to the "Insert" key is sufficiently 
> "hella-useful."


I did not pay sufficient attention to what I was doing and this reply
got sent to Randall instead of to the list, so it has been delayed a
day.

I don't use Ctrl-V to insert the clipboard; I use Shift-Insert. I use
Ctrl-Insert to copy to the clipboard and Shift-Delete to cut. These have
been standard since Windows 3.1. I learned to use them by using the
technique of remembering that Ctrl-Insert begins with "C" as in "Copy".
If these keys were used in CygWin and if a Windows user were to get in
the habit of using them in Windows then they should be able to use the
"correct" keys by habit. I have encountered very few situations in which
Ctrl-Insert does not work and in the situations it does not work I did
not even think to try using Ctrl-V. I think that one situation in which
Ctrl-Insert does not work is Adobe Acrobat (the find dialog at least)
and all others are less common; at least less commonly used by me.



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