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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:45:37 -0400
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From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" <lhall AT rfk DOT com>
Subject: Re: Mysterious gdb behavior.
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At 10:41 PM 7/29/2002, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>At 10:00 PM 7/29/2002, Paul Derbyshire wrote:
> >On 29 Jul 2002 at 13:36, Samuel wrote:
> >
> > > > Error 193 is a Windows API error.  Specifically, it is
> > > > ERROR_BAD_EXE_FORMAT.  I thought the normal way to find this out was to
> > > > type "net helpmsg 193" but that doesn't work on my W2K system.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > For those that have the Windows SDK header files, the following is a copy of
> > > the relevant portion of winerror.h:
> > > 
> > > //
> > > // MessageId: ERROR_BAD_EXE_FORMAT
> > > //
> > > // MessageText:
> > > //
> > > //  %1 is not a valid Windows NT application.
> > > //
> > > #define ERROR_BAD_EXE_FORMAT             193L
> >
> >It'd be nice of the gdb port would translate error numbers like 193 
> >into meaningful error messages. Instead, the user has to look around 
> >in winapi header files. No, scratch that, since gdb doesn't even 
> >indicate that it's a Windows error code, the user has to either be 
> >knowledgeable about the gdb source code and have the time and 
> >inclination to go hunting through it to see where the error message 
> >is coming from, or they have to ask the mailing list an expert on 
> >which will then do likewise. And, of course, the natural thing to do 
> >with the gdb source in this instance is to search it for #define foo 
> >193 only to find it isn't there, because it turned out gdb is only 
> >passing this number on from a system call...
> >
> >Cryptic error messages, especially raw numbers, are the bane of 
> >troubleshooting and of end users everywhere.
>
>
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>I'm not sure how long you've been a part of this list but your name 
>seems new to me.  Let me take a moment to welcome you to the Cygwin 
>community.  It's a group of volunteers and users, all working to make Cygwin better.
>
>Certainly, you've jumped right in!  I can see you've been quite prolific 
>on the email list recently.  I think it's great that you're curious about the 
>problems you're seeing and have ideas for solutions.  I am, however, concerned 
>that you're not going to get much in the way of responses from knowledgeable 
>folk on this list if you don't try to work with those who respond to your 
>posts.  I can see that some might see your responses as inflammatory.  To be
>sure, everyone's entitled to a rant or two on this list.  The email archive
>is full of them.  I'm sure it wouldn't take someone too long to find a post or
>two of mine that qualifies. ;-)  Still, it's important to recognize that 
>the goal of this list is to exchange information.  A certain healthy dose
>of tolerance is sometimes required to keep a reasonable signal to noise ratio.
>Don't forget, this is a list of volunteers.  Volunteers aren't as motivated
>to spend their "free" time trying to help folks that don't work with them.
>I only mention that because I can see how many of your recent posts (including
>this one) might be perceived by maintainers (and others) as divisive.  I'd
>hate to see posts of yours on good issues go ignored because of this.  Since
>you may be new to the list, I thought I'd point out how you might best get
>information you need.  You may be fully aware of all this already.  If so,
>I apologize for conveying it too you again.  But if not, it seemed negligent

                               ^^^
                  Grrr!        to


>  
>of me not to point this out.  
>
>I hope you find Cygwin useful and I look forward to your future contributions
>to it's continued success.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>
>Larry Hall                              lhall AT rfk DOT com
>RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
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>
>
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