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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:11:02 +1000 (EST)
From: luke DOT kendall AT cisra DOT canon DOT com DOT au
Subject: Re: Setup.exe: plans and progress?
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On 16 Jul, Pavel Tsekov replied to:
>  lkccca> I was just wondering how the work on setup is progressing? 
>  lkccca> Specifically, I'm wondering about the ease of use when trying to 
>  lkccca> install everything.  A lot of the recent work seems to have 
>  lkccca> concentrated on other issues. 
>   
>  It's easy as a pie! :) Just click next to the category 'All' until the 
>  text becomes 'Install'. 

Thanks, Pavel, it worked quite well.

The user interface is a little strange - it's not obvious that some
pieces of the display (like the word Default, etc.) are in fact active
controls.

Anyway, it was pretty easy to install everything - just a few mouse
clicks when everything behaved.

Some odd things, though.  setup.exe became exceptionally sluggish when
it got to the package selection screen.  This was true under Win98 at
home, and even more true on a Win2K machine at work.

The delay between clicking on the package install type (Default,
Uninstall, Reinstall, Install), on my Win98 machine, was between 5 and
20 seconds.  On one Win2K machine at work (dual Pentium Xeon II
450MHz), the delays were mostly around a minute or two!

(Watching in the task manager, Setup.exe spent a lot of time in the
state "Not responding".  I don't know how significant that is, though. 
It was showing "Not responding", for example ,during the last few
minutes of the TeX post-install process - even while that window was
showing lots of activity.)

Also strange on that Win2K system was the fact that for the first 10
minutes of trying to select "Install" as the option for all packages,
the choices would only cycle between Default and Uninstall.

In the end we turned off the McAfee virus scanner, and just kept
clicking, and gradually things improved until the delay between a click
and the option changing dropped to about 5 or 10 seconds, then it
allowed us to select Reinstall, then click again to get Default and
then finally Install, and at that point everything started behaving
properly.

Another Win2K machine (a Pentium Pro 200MHz) behaved much better;
I left the setup screen mostly blank when it was working out the list
of packages, and came back 5 mins later to find that the categories
were all on display; and the delay between a click and something
happening was only a few seconds.

We also installed it on a WinXP machine.  That seemed to work fine. 
Response to clicks on the install type were close to immediate.

Anyway, knowing that a full install can be done in just a few clicks,
is great.  Thanks to all those who responded - just thought I'd better
give some feedback.

Cheers,

luke


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