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Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:11:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nicholas Wourms <nwourms AT yahoo DOT com>
Subject: RE: Setup as recommended reading
To: Robert Collins <robert DOT collins AT itdomain DOT com DOT au>, cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
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Hi,

Before you do bow out, I think people need to realize, as it was stated
before, that you are not trying to reinvent the wheel.  Yes, RPM is great
for many things, but the goal of setup isn't to be rpm.  In fact, IIRC it
was stated that once someone had volunteered to support rpm for Cygwin and
it was proved stable, there might be some discussion as to making
setup.exe based on the rpm api.  There has been some discussion lately
regarding this port and I believe someone has even volunteered to do it. 
Be that as it may, it will still be much time before this is implimented,
IF it is implemented.  So let Rob actually perfect what he has before
asking for heaps of new features.  IMHO, setup seems to be working nicely
for the most part, minus a few bugs here and there.  I honestly think
there are more critical issues to focus on then the "fluff" of UI, such as
getting a fast, stable SysV IPC system integrated into cygwin and
releasing an updated binutils with better dynamic library capabilities. 
Feel free to disagree....

Cheers,
Nicholas

--- Robert Collins <robert DOT collins AT itdomain DOT com DOT au> wrote:
> That's fine. It still needs the list of all available pacakges which I
> documented setup as needing a long time ago, and referenced in both of
> my emails on this thread. Patches would be appreciated, but other than
> that I think we all agree it would be nice. 
> 
> I'm bowing out of this thread at this point.
> 
> Rob
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: René Møller Fonseca [mailto:fonseca AT mip DOT sdu DOT dk] 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 10:21 PM
> > To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
> > Subject: Re: Setup as recommended reading
> > 
> > 
> > The RPM package application Gnome RPM (gnorpm) has a filter selection 
> > box in the install dialog with the following possibilities:
> > 
> > All packages
> > All but installed packages
> > Only uninstalled packages
> > Only newer packages
> > Uninstalled or newer packages
> > 
> > Very convenient, I think.
> > 
> > René
> > 
> > Brian Gallew wrote:
> > > Robert Collins said:
> > > 
> > >>There is an implicit conflict there with setup, because 
> > setup doesn't 
> > >>know what was available before - it only knows version for what is 
> > >>installed. That will change in the future.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > How about this:  Allow packages to be marked "never install"?  Then 
> > > setup can display all of the udpated or new packages, yet give the 
> > > user an easy way to control what (s)he has to look at?
> > > 
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