Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <3C3B15B1.935C3C4@rowman.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 10:52:17 -0500 From: John Peacock MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: cygwin console References: <20020108113417 DOT A8402 AT infosat DOT net> <6374-Tue08Jan2002111758+0000-starksb AT ebi DOT ac DOT uk> <1126157253 DOT 20020108122424 AT familiehaase DOT de> <5519-Tue08Jan2002114553+0000-starksb AT ebi DOT ac DOT uk> <20020108153939 DOT GA22944 AT redhat DOT com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christopher Faylor wrote: > > The problem is that we'll be switching the "I need a scrollbar!"s with > the "Where is the output from ?". > > cygwin's pty emulation does not work with every windows application. I > don't think we should default to using rxvt for this reason. I was not aware of this limitation. Is this something we should be working on or is it a known-lost-cause-due-to-Redmond-stupidity issue. > > It is so frighteningly trivial to change this that I don't really see a > big deal here. The basic problem is that people think that cygwin is a > standard inscrutable windows app with no way to control their > environment if it isn't an option in setup.exe. > > Maybe that's what needs to go into the FAQ: "You have the power!" Maybe Gerrit's idea of having a commented rxvt line in cygwin.bat could be extended to comment the rxvt line itself as well. This way, the FAQ could simple say "If you don't like the (lame) DOS-box window, edit the cygwin.bat file and uncomment the rxvt line for another kind of terminal session." > > Or, maybe we should get rid of the GUI setup entirely and have people > untar stuff themselves so that they realize what's going on. 1/2 :-) Ha, ha, it is to laugh... John -- John Peacock Director of Information Research and Technology Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group 4720 Boston Way Lanham, MD 20706 301-459-3366 x.5010 fax 301-429-5747 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/