Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com From: "Tim Peters" To: "Cygwin" Cc: "Python-List" Subject: RE: Cygwin Python -- Thread or not to thread... Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:17:47 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: <20010925112312.E1280@dothill.com> Importance: Normal [Jason Tishler] > ... > there is one known Cygwin pthreads race condition that can cause a hang, > ... > test_threadedtempfile hung due to the above mentioned problem. > ... > Should I still release my next Cygwin Python distribution with > threading enabled? Or, should I continue to disabled threading > until the above known Cygwin pthreads issue is resolved? Poor end users should never need to deal with thread race bugs, and test_threadedtempfile is merely testing the robustness of a Python library routine in the presence of threads. So a user can get burned by this through no fault of their own -- tempfile.TemporaryFile() is meant to be used by everyone, threads or not. > ... > By releasing a threaded Cygwin Python, more people will be able to > exercise Cygwin's pthreads support which will help test the > implementation. If it's already known to be flawed, what's the point in having millions of users confirm it ? > ... > The more conservative approach is to continue to release Cygwin Python > with threading disabled until the known Cygwin pthreads issue is > resolved. AKA "the user-friendly" approach. Spell out in the README that users who don't mind losing their hair are encouraged to build and test with thread support enabled. A few will, most won't, and that's how it should be when it's known to be buggy; the good news is that the few who do try it will be much more likely to be motivated and helpful. the-2.1.1-release-was-meant-to-be-rock-solid-ly y'rs - tim -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/