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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:05:36 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Hans-Bernhard Broeker <broeker AT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de>
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To: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" <lhall AT rfk DOT com>
cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, jtiller AT sjm DOT com
Subject: Re: German Win98, US Win95 keyboard --> no ;'` keys in Bash
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:

> You can check the email archives on this.  I believe it was Jason
> Tishler (sorry Jason if I'm remembering this wrong) that did some work 
> relative to the interpretation of keys in different environments.  

[Jason didn't keep me in the Cc:, so I only found his reply via mailing
list search...]

Jason:  Please note that this really shouldn't have any direct connection
to that AltGr issue.  Neither my keyboard nor my usual keyboard layout
does have an AltGr key.  The problem I observed happened without any
particular involvement of any of the Alt or other special keys.  

It's a plain US keyboard (with "Windows keys), and the default keyboard
layout is "English (US)", which is an exact 1:1 mapping of what's written
onto the keycaps. I.e. instead of the case you had to handle:

--- quote from Jason's mail to cygwin AT cygwin DOT com:
This didn't work very well because lots of people, like you, set their
keyboard language to English but have their keyboard *layout* set to
something else (German, French, etc.).  
--- quote end

I'm facing a somewhat opposite situation: keyboard language and keyboard
are both plain English(US).  It's only the system language (what you
control in the 'language' controller of the Win9x system settings) that is
German, and the alternative keyboard layout: I have the internationalizer
button in the Taskbar running, allowing me to switch from this US mapping
to a German one on demand, on a per-application basis.

But, as I already mentioned in another mail, the bulk of this problem
seems gone since I rebooted the machine.  Since then it only reappeared
once, in circumstances I didn't manage to reproduce yet.  

FYI: A quick check done with 'cygcheck -k', when the problem was there,
showed that the nonfunctional keys reported no VK at all (i.e. VK=0),
if memory serves me well. Next time it happens, I'll write it all down
and mail again.

-- 
Hans-Bernhard Broeker (broeker AT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de)
Even if all the snow were burnt, ashes would remain.


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