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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:38:09 +0100
From: "malcolm.boekhoff" <malcolm DOT boekhoff AT actfs DOT co DOT uk>
To: Cygwin News Group <cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com>
Subject: Re: Why is the file created via "cmd /c echo.>1" reported by "ls -l" as owned by Administrator and group None?
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In-Reply-To: <20010831121402.38446.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com>; from jreidthompson@yahoo.com on Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 05:14:02AM -0700

Are you in a domain?
How do you start CMD.COM?
Please post passwd and group snippets.

On 2001-08-31 05:14:02, Reid Thompson wrote:
> on my installation the results are the same(echo >
> how) from bash or CMD or bash in CMD all result in: 
> -rw-r--r--    1 Reid.Tho Administ        1 Aug 31
> 08:12 how
> 
> --- "malcolm.boekhoff" <malcolm DOT boekhoff AT actfs DOT co DOT uk>
> wrote:
> > Dear Cygwinners,
> > 
> > If I do this in a Dos, Cmd.com prompt:
> > 
> >     echo.>1
> > 
> > and this in the same directory in a Bash prompt:
> > 
> >     echo>2
> > 
> > the files do not have the same
> > owner/group/permissions:
> > 
> >     Fri 31/08/2001 11:39:43.28 D:\temp>echo.>1
> > 
> >     Fri 31/08/2001 11:50:22.90 D:\temp>bash
> >     Fri Aug 31-11:50:25 /tmp 501$ echo>2
> >     Fri Aug 31-11:50:27 /tmp 502$ ls -l ?
> >     -rw-r--r--    1 boekhoff Administ        2 Aug
> > 31 11:50 1
> >     -rwxrwxrwx    1 Administ Domain U        2 Aug
> > 31 11:50 2
> >     Fri Aug 31-11:50:31 /tmp 503$
> > 
> > How can I keep the permissions/owner/group
> > consistent?
> > 
> > I guess I am really curious as to why NT doesn't
> > create the file
> > properly.
> > 
> > I am logged in as a user, although that user is one
> > of the
> > Administrators of the machine (i.e. in the
> > "Administrators" group).
> > 
> > It seems to be that files are created as owned by
> > administrator + some
> > random group if you are in the Administrators group
> > yourself, correct?
> > 
> > I use:
> > 
> >     "mkpasswd -l -d -g -p /f >/etc/passwd" and
> > change the home directory
> > 
> > and:
> > 
> >     "mkgroup  -l -d -u       >/etc/group"
> > 
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > P.S. I have discovered that I *can* keep the
> > permissions consistent by:
> > 
> >         1. Start DOS prompt.
> >         2. Start bash.
> >         3. Start another DOS prompt.
> > 
> >     This appears to sort of work, as the following
> > output shows. However
> >     it doesn't feel right - starting all those
> > shells and anyway it
> >     still hasn't got the group right:
> > 
> >         Fri Aug 31-11:50:31 /tmp 503$ cmd /p
> >         Microsoft(R) Windows NT(TM)
> >         (C) Copyright 1985-1996 Microsoft Corp.
> > 
> >         Fri 31/08/2001 11:51:18.84 D:\temp>echo.>3
> > 
> >         Fri 31/08/2001 11:51:23.16 D:\temp>ls -l ?
> >         -rw-r--r--    1 boekhoff Administ        2
> > Aug 31 11:50 1
> >         -rwxrwxrwx    1 Administ Domain U        2
> > Aug 31 11:50 2
> >         -rwxrwxrwx    1 boekhoff Domain U        2
> > Aug 31 11:51 3
> > 
> > O.K. Maybe one day I'll get round to starting Bash
> > first, as the main
> > shell, but I'll need to convert my Dos startup
> > script with all my
> > environment variable settings.
> > 
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Here's the `cygcheck --sysinfo` stuff:
> > 
> > cygcheck: dump_sysinfo: GetVolumeInformation()
> > failed: 1005
> > 
> > Cygnus Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
> > Current System Time: Fri Aug 31 11:55:18 2001
> > 
> > WinNT Ver 4.0 build 1381 Service Pack 4
> > 
> > Path:   .
> >         /e/mcb/act/bin/nt
> >         /e/mcb/act/bin
> >         /d/jdk1.3/bin
> >         /d/jdk1.3/jre/bin
> >         /d/jpda/bin
> >         /usr/local/bin
> >         /usr/bin
> >         /usr/bin
> >         /usr/sbin
> >         /d/vim/vim57
> >         /d/vim/vim57/olevim
> >         /e/mcb/bin/nt
> >         /e/mcb/bin
> >         /d/bin/nt
> >         /d/bin
> >         /d/build/lib
> >         /c/WINNT
> >         /c/WINNT/system32
> >         /d/together4.1/bin
> >         /d/together4.1/bin/win32
> >         /d/program files/microsoft debugging
> > tools/bin
> >         /c/program files/microsoft visual
> > studio/common/msdev98/bin
> >         /c/program files/microsoft visual
> > studio/vc98/bin
> >         /c/program files/microsoft visual
> > studio/common/tools/winnt
> >         /c/program files/microsoft visual
> > studio/common/tools
> >         /d/oracle/ora817/bin
> >         /d/oracle/ora817/jdbc/lib
> >         /c/ccm45/bin
> >         /c/ccm45/bin/util
> >         /c/enabler/runtime
> >         /c/program files/microsoft visual
> > studio/vss/win32
> >         /c/program files/windows nt/accessories
> >         /c/program files/winzip
> > 
> > SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
> > WinDir: C:\WINNT
> > 
> > CYGWIN = `ntsec case:ignorecase title nostrip_title
> > glob'
> > HOME = `/e/mcb/act'
> > MAKE_MODE = `unix'
> > PWD = `/tmp'
> > 
> > Use `-r' to scan registry
> > 
> > a:  fd           N/A    N/A
> > c:  hd  NTFS    2047Mb  65% CP CS UN PA FC
> > d:  hd  NTFS    6902Mb  87% CP CS UN PA FC
> > e:  hd  NTFS     588Mb  78% CP CS UN PA FC
> > f:  cd           N/A    N/A
> > p:  net NTFS    8675Mb  83% CP CS UN PA FC    
> > Documents
> > 
> > d:\cygwin\bin\strace.exe  /bin/strace.exe  system 
> > binmode,exec
> > d:\cygwin\bin\strace.exe  /usr/bin/strace.exe 
> > system  binmode,exec
> > d:\cygwin\bin  /usr/bin  system  textmode
> > d:\cygwin\lib  /usr/lib  system  textmode
> > d:\cygwin  /        system  textmode
> > d:\temp  /tmp     system  textmode
> > \\.\a:  /dev/floppy  system  binmode
> > \\.\f:  /dev/cdrom  system  binmode
> > d:\zip  /zip     system  textmode
> > c:    /c       user    textmode,noumount
> > d:    /d       user    textmode,noumount
> > e:    /e       user    textmode,noumount
> > p:    /p       user    textmode,noumount
> > 
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
> > Found: d:\bin\nt\cat.exe
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
> > Found: d:\bin\nt\ls.exe
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\make.exe
> > Found: d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
> > 
> >    56k 2000/12/03 d:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll
> >    45k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll
> >    18k 2000/10/23 d:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll
> >    17k 2001/06/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll
> >    21k 2001/06/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll
> >    21k 2001/06/20 d:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll
> >    81k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll
> >    35k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll
> >    45k 2001/07/04 d:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll
> >   119k 2001/06/06 d:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll
> >    26k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll
> >   156k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll
> >   226k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll
> >    15k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll
> >   163k 2001/05/06 d:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll
> >   108k 2001/06/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll
> >   135k 2001/06/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll
> >   390k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll
> >     5k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll
> >    10k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll
> >   245k 2001/06/12 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll
> >   623k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll
> >    41k 2001/07/04 d:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll
> >    45k 2001/07/04 d:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll
> >    49k 2001/02/03 d:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll
> >   678k 2001/05/21 d:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll
> >     Cygwin DLL version info:
> >         dll major: 1003
> >         dll minor: 2
> >         dll epoch: 19
> >         dll bad signal mask: 19005
> >         dll old termios: 5
> >         dll malloc env: 28
> >         api major: 0
> >         api minor: 39
> >         shared data: 3
> >         dll identifier: cygwin1
> >         mount registry: 2
> >         cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
> >         cygwin registry name: Cygwin
> >         program options name: Program Options
> >         cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
> >         cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
> >         cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
> >         cygdrive default prefix:
> >         build date: Sun May 20 23:28:17 EDT 2001
> >         shared id: cygwin1S3
> > 
> > Use -h to see help about each section
> > 
> > Fri 31/08/2001 11:55:20.14 D:\temp>
> > 
> >
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