Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:05:33 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: "shouted down", "shot down", apologies Message-ID: <20010629110533.E6250@redhat.com> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20010628102241 DOT D30710 AT redhat DOT com> <001f01c1009e$398eb0d0$b2020a0a AT SRST20> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.11i In-Reply-To: <001f01c1009e$398eb0d0$b2020a0a@SRST20>; from vrice@solidrocksystems.com on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:20:09AM -0500 On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:20:09AM -0500, Vince Rice wrote: >I wasn't the one interested in building Cygwin; I think that was John. You were apparently responding to my query as to why CVS checkout, configuring, and building were an apparent big deal here but not in other mailing lists. I opined that we got more programming newbies but I didn't really understand why I didn't see more newbie confusion in other mailing lists. I have expressed rhetorical "wonder" at the huge number of newbies that we get here in the past but, in this particular case, I was being pretty specific. I was referring to people who were volunteering to help out with development. I think I'm clever enough to realize that a person with no C experience will not know a lot about C development. So, you seemed to be responding to a specific query and I was responding to your response. >You may not say "use the source" when you know the answer, but many >here do. Ok, but you seemed to be accusing me, specifically, of being unhelpful. It seems to be the case that if someone asks a question and I point them to the source (these days, I even use a specific file in the source, if I can) then that is interpreted as a slap in the face. Perhaps that is a newbie attitude. Perhaps a newbie expects that software that they download for free should come with high-level technical support. I don't know. When I point people at the source, I usually do so because I do not think that anyone else will be answering their questions. I could wai" and see if that is true but I would prefer not to have to set up some kind of crude bug tracking system which ages requests and then notifies me when no one has responded. I assume that Larry Hall feels the same way about this when he answers generally, rather than specifically. It still boils down to how much work I am willing to put into this project. I think I have become convinced that time spent answering questions here is, by and large, not appreciated. You can see it in the zip MS-DOS path thread. I tried to respond quickly with the rationale for the apparent bug but was quickly accused of "disdain" -- apparently because I wasn't interested in spending my time fixing that particular problem. So, that's fine. I will try to curb my response to email here and let the community develop its own mechanisms for answering questions. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/